Property talk:P2562
Documentation
- Start a query
- Current uses
- Statistics by class
- String length
- Language of strings
- List of qualifiers
- Count
name or surname adopted by a person upon marriage
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2562#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2562#citation needed
Pattern ^(.*) (.*)$ will be automatically replaced to \1 \2. Testing: TODO list |
This property is being used by: Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.) |
|
Remove "spouse" constraint
[edit]Since women are the vast majority of people who change their names upon marriage, requiring the "spouse" property--which is not a freeform field but requires another Wikidata item--suggests that the only way a (married) woman could possibly be notable enough for Wikipedia is if her husband was also notable, and never notable in her own right. Alternatively, change the spouse property to a freeform field that could be qualified with a Wikidata item in cases where the spouse is actually notable. LadiesMakingComics (talk) 20:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Also, why does "married name" get sorted above "family name" and "given name"? It would be one thing if "family name" was also sorted above "given name" and it was just a surname primacy thing, but no, the way it works now is that a woman's married name is given primacy over all the names that first formed her identity. LadiesMakingComics (talk) 20:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't quite get why this is used by default for women. name in native language(P1559) can do just as well. If it's important enough to mention that it's a married name, I don't see why we wouldn't have a non-mandatory suggestion to include such an item. --- Jura 22:50, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
I would like to take up this discussion again because I support the proposal by LadiesMakingComics to remove this restriction. I came across this problem, which I have noticed several times here, over Emma Heinrich (Q1338037) again. I cannot understand Jura’s suggestion that you simply use name in native language (P1559) because I was not allowed to do it that way by the object Angela Merkel (Q567). There are also examples in which this proposal cannot be implemented. Let's look at the object Julia Scharf (Q1711904) and her German Wikipedia article Julia Scharf. Her name in the native language is Julia Scharf. Under this name she also moderates the Sportschau. Her married name is Julia Scharf-Mosler and her husband, unlike her, is probably not relevant for German Wikipedia. But in order to insert the married name and not generate an error, I would have to create a data object for him. For me the easiest solution is to have the restriction removed. --Gymnicus (talk) 13:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)