[go: up one dir, main page]
More Web Proxy on the site http://driver.im/
THE BOOK cover
The Unwritten Book
is Finally Written!

Read Excerpts & Reviews
E-Book available
as Amazon Kindle or
at iTunes for $9.99.

Hardcopy available at Amazon
SABR101 required reading if you enter this site. Check out the Sabermetric Wiki. And interesting baseball books.
Shop Amazon & Support This Blog
RECENT FORUM TOPICS
Jul 12 15:22 Marcels
Apr 16 14:31 Pitch Count Estimators
Mar 12 16:30 Appendix to THE BOOK - THE GORY DETAILS
Jan 29 09:41 NFL Overtime Idea
Jan 22 14:48 Weighting Years for NFL Player Projections
Jan 21 09:18 positional runs in pythagenpat
Oct 20 15:57 DRS: FG vs. BB-Ref

Advanced

Tangotiger Blog

A blog about baseball, hockey, life, and whatever else there is.

Wednesday, November 15, 2023

History of The Marcels

Back in the early 2000s, when I started blogging heavily on baseball and hockey, I was intrigued, then aghast at the "forecasting" systems being offered, some for a price. They all came with a pseudo-promise of some sort or other.

This is the same thing with the stock market that I used to follow back in the 1990s. I saw an article at the time about evaluating stock predictions. And wouldn't you know it: only one of the ten brokerage houses even beat the index. Basically, nobody can predict anything really. No one has any special insight. You throw thousands of people together, and Random Variation will simply start putting some folks ahead of others.

It's also when I learned how Mutual Funds would get above-average results: you'd have a fund company that has two similar types of funds. One will do better than the other. Guess what happens: one absorbs the assets of the other, but NOT the history. So, now you get survivorship bias: all the remaining mutual funds are above average! And then they create a NEW second one, to keep that cycle going.

This is also how they sell those free betting tips. You call some 1-800 number with three picks being offered for free. Well, they set up 8 different lines, each with a different combination of picks. One of them will get all of them right, and therefore 12.5% of the callers will be happy with those results, and stick with that phone line.

Anyway, back to baseball. I decided to try my hand at forecasting. I started with something simple, and just used the three most recent seasons. It worked pretty well. Then I started adding more and more. And something curious happened. It would help for 51% of the batters and hurt 49% of the batters. No matter what I tried, other than age, nothing really stuck much. A different 51% of batters helped, but no real bias. Each iteration was alot of work, for such little gain. So, I decided to take a step back and decided to have as my baseline just a Naive model: last three seasons, age, and regression.

Then, I compared that to what was being published publicly, and something interesting happened: the Naive model was as good, or better than virtually everything out there. So, instead of trying to improve the model to try to get every little gain, I decided to publish as-is, and call it Marcel The Monkey Forecasting System, aka The Marcels, as the basic most simple forecasting system anyone should expect. So, instead of trying to be the best, I'm basically saying: this is the worst (acceptable). And boy did that clear the field. If you can't beat The Marcels, then what is the value-added of your system?

And so, I published it, and kept it up for a while. In the meantime, others have implemented my model (though without me checking their code, so I can't confirm they are totally faithful, but, I'm sure they are all excellent).

And that's how The Marcels work and came to be.

(1) Comments • 2023/11/15 • Forecasting

Latest...

COMMENTS

Nov 23 14:15
Layered wOBAcon

Nov 22 22:15
Cy Young Predictor 2024

Oct 28 17:25
Layered Hit Probability breakdown

Oct 15 13:42
Binomial fun: Best-of-3-all-home is equivalent to traditional Best-of-X where X is

Oct 14 14:31
NaiveWAR and VictoryShares

Oct 02 21:23
Component Run Values: TTO and BIP

Oct 02 11:06
FRV v DRS

Sep 28 22:34
Runs Above Average

Sep 16 16:46
Skenes v Webb: Illustrating Replacement Level in WAR

Sep 16 16:43
Sacrifice Steal Attempt

Sep 09 14:47
Can Wheeler win the Cy Young in 2024?

Sep 08 13:39
Small choices, big implications, in WAR

Sep 07 09:00
Why does Baseball Reference love Erick Fedde?

Sep 03 19:42
Re-Leveraging Aaron Judge

Aug 24 14:10
Science of baseball in 1957

THREADS

November 15, 2023
History of The Marcels