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Sunday, September 15, 2024

Sacrifice Steal Attempt

By Tangotiger 03:19 PM

Cleveland was ahead by 1 run in the bottom of the 5th, 1 out, runners on the corners. Chance of winning is .776

Runner on 1B attempted to steal 2B. 

Choices for Rays was:

  1. Let runner steal uncontested, keep runner at bay, leaving runners at 2B+3B, chance of winning .795
  2. Throw to 2B, allow runner to score
  • CS means .795
  • SB means .833

As you can see, the win value of the runner at 3B gaining a base is exactly equal to the win value of the runner on 1B being thrown out.  Which makes sense, since the run value of going from 3B to home plate is about plus 0.4 runs, and the run value of the CS is about minus 0.4 runs.  

Of course, this ONLY makes sense if the CS was a guaranteed out.  Otherwise, having the runner steal 2B and the runner scoring would be a disaster play.  

End result: catcher should NOT have attempted to throw the runner out, and he got lucky to breakeven on that play.

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    #1    Darren 2024/09/15 (Sun) @ 18:53

    Isn’t there a third option. Throw to second and have the infielder cut the throw off to get the runner going home. Certainly depends on the arm of the infielder and the runner at third - but you see it often as a set play

    Also..does the runner at third always run home on a throw to second?


    #2    Tangotiger 2024/09/16 (Mon) @ 16:43

    Right, that was definitely the (only) other choice.

    If the runner on 1B wants to steal 2B, you have to let him.

    If you want to throw (short) toward the 2B, and have the infielders throw it back to the catcher, you can definitely do that.

    In that case:
    .795 not fooling the runner
    .833 fooling the runner, but still SB
    .733 fooling the runner, with a CS

    So, the offense gains 38 points on the SB, while losing 62 on the CS.

    That makes the break even point easy to calculation: 62% success rate for the runner on the SB.

    If the defense thinks the runner won’t go on the short-throw, or that he would go, but would make it (SB) less than 62% of the time, then a short-throw is what the defense should have done.


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