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Wednesday, April 05, 2017
?Dave does a great job noting the changes. The short summary is that every ballpark is using Statcast and we are reporting in real-time the velocity of the pitch out-of-hand. The average release point is about 54.5 feet. Here, let me show the breakdown:
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How does that compare to the velocity at y=50 (meaning 50 feet from the back tip of home plate), which was the previous number being reported? Glad you asked. Here are two charts, one based on the difference, and the other based on the rate. Each chart uses both the extension of the pitcher, as well as the pitch speed out of his hand.
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Because the percentage retained is virtually entirely based on the distance, we can collapse the above chart like so
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Just as interesting, an industry-leading site Brooks Baseball has been reporting measurements at y=55, meaning taking y=50 data and inferring speed at y=55 (whether the pitcher releases at 54 feet or 56 feet).
There are good reasons to have a fixed point (whether y=50 or y=55 or ... see below) as well as the actual release point. Both will be tracked. But in terms of the real-time tracking number, the out-of-hand is what you will be seeing.
UPDATE: As I noted above, I said BOTH will be tracked. The out-of-hand is what you will see. In order to see the fixed point, you can interpret it from the XML file. The key value you are after is vy0, which is in feet per second, which you can convert to MPH by multiplying by 0.681818. It's velocity along the y-axis. Thanks to Dan Brooks below for reminding me that to get the speed toward the plate, you need all three axis values, vx0, vy0, vz0. You'd square them all, add them up, and square root.
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Ok, the "fixed" point, presumably to make sure every pitcher is being compared the same. Let's say two pitchers throw a ball, one that releases it 7 feet from the mound, and the other releases it 5 feet from the mound. By the time the ball reaches y=50 (meaning 50 feet from the back tip of home plate), both balls are traveling at 95mph. Are they equally impactful from the perspective of the batter?
The guy who released it with longer extension (i.e., closer to the plate), released it, out of hand, at 95.5. The guy who released it with shorter extension, released it, out of hand, at 95.8. Are those two equivalent, from the perspective of the batter?
I don't know (yet). If they are not equivalent, then there's no real purpose to reporting the y=50 value. We don't calculate data for the purpose of calculating data. We organize baseball data to be able to answer baseball questions.
It may very well be that the best way to organize the data is to show: (a) speed out of hand, and (b) x,y,z position of the ball at T minus 250 ms, where T=0 is front of home plate (or perhaps where T=0 where y=2 feet from back tip of home plate). Once we figure out what we want, then we'll do that.
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• 2017/04/05
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Statcast
Saturday, March 11, 2017
?First thing, kudos to Jonathan for being meticulous about it. Secondly, totally agree in terms of using FIP as the baseline, and he says it succinctly at the end. I would even use an additional baseline, and that is simply strikeouts minus "walks" per PA, where walks is BB-IBB+HBP. You'd be surprised (shocked?) at how well that does. Thirdly, the presentation of the three tests is perfect: (a) current RA9, (b) internal reliability, (c) future RA9
So, it's fascinating that DRA can (a) describe current RA9 as well as FIP AND (c) is slightly better than FIP in forecasting AND (b) does so by being more internally consistent (meaning it can better describe why it does so well). My GUESS is that it underweights HR and overweights SO, but can then counteract that with other data. So, for describing current RA9, it tried to do WORSE by changing the weights of HR and SO, but then is able to balance that out for current RA9 by using more inputs. And does so without affect future RA9. All the while making it more internally consistent. Just a guess, but that's what I'd do.
One thing this shows is how DIPS will survive (in the form of FIP). Remember, FIP is nothing more than DIPS, which means the whole idea of FIP I'd consider to be 99% Voros. Voros is the lawyer that created the DIPS argument, and I'm the paralegal that dots the i's and crosses the t's, with FIP. I'm sure Voros would like that analogy.
Anyway, the devil is in the details, and I'll be interested to learn about the specific pitchers, and where the value-added comes from.
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• 2017/03/11
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Pitchers
Thursday, January 05, 2017
?MGL takes a look. He shows that for pitchers who had a bad ERA overall, with some really bad starts in there, ending up matching MGL's forecast. His forecast did NOT include a "flag" for number of bad starts. It just looked at their overall seasonal stats.
More interestingly, MGL's control group is pitchers who had the (similar) bad ERA overall, without a big number of bad starts. Again, his forecast did not look for number of bad starts. And their overall forecast was the same as the studied group. Except this control group actually outperformed their forecast.
This tells me that either:
- MGL's forecasting system is not good enough (say 5% likelihood)
- Number of bad starts is actually a good indicator, but in the direction of "fewer bad starts, given same ERA as someone with many bad starts" in the positive direction (say 20% likelihood)
- Sample sizeitis (say 75% likelihood)
But for those hanging their hat on "if not for those really bad starts...", they won't find it here.
Thursday, December 01, 2016
?A good piece by RJ on Jonathan's work.
RJ had asked me for an interview on this, but I told him at the time that I haven't kept up with DRA enough to be able to offer any good comments. Nonetheless, Jonathan does great work, so, DRA is in good hands.
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• 2017/03/11
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Pitchers
Tuesday, November 22, 2016
This is a link to the one I just posted:
?As you can see, when we adjust Verlander’s WAR, we shouldn’t adjust it based on the fact that the Tigers cost him some ten hits, but rather adjust him so that the Tigers fielders actually HELPED him to two hits.
...with a healthy level of comments from MGL among others:
It looks like your assumption is that pitchers with low BABIP necessarily had very good defense behind them regardless of how good the team’s defense was for the year and vice versa if a pitcher had a high BABIP. So it’s a Bayesian type adjustment, which is indeed correct. Also if B-R is using team DRS to adjust pitcher WAR without regressing that DRS they are making a mistake. Same with using UZR.
This is Poz's article:
For one thing, I think it’s quite likely that Detroit played EXCELLENT defense behind Verlander, even if they were shaky behind everyone else. I’m not sure how you can expect a defense to allow less than a .256 batting average on balls in play (the second-lowest of Verlander’s career and second lowest in the American League in 2016) or allow just three runners to reach on error all year (the lowest total of Verlander’s career).
This is Bill James:
The logic of the Baseball Reference WAR analysis is that, given the same defense behind them, the same park, Justin Verlander WOULD HAVE allowed significantly fewer runs than Rick Porcello. The question this pushes us to is, Is this actually a reasonable thing to believe? No, it isn’t. Maybe it is a reasonable adjustment in theory, I don’t know. Maybe if we compared 100 different pitchers, this would be a useful and instructive adjustment in the other 98 cases; I don’t know. But we’re talking about this case.
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In Bill's article he also had a preamble about pitcher Wins and how they are used in Cy Young voting. It's Classic Bill, which means he was able to restructure a complex topic into something easy to grasp. The whole thing is a great read. His conclusion:
The Won-Lost record was no longer the king of the library. From 1992 to 2005 other statistics were basically AS important in the Cy Young voting as the won-lost record, and since 2006 the other stats have been MORE important than the won-lost record.
Saturday, September 24, 2016
Bill James has Season Score, which is a sort of Game Score for the season. The statistics he uses are: W, L, SV, GF, IP, ER, R, BB, SO. The only main stats he is not using are hits and homeruns. Let's accept that the only thing we want are these stats he is using. Now, how can we create a metric out of that?
Part 1
The currency that you should strive for is wins. So, let's start with W and L. Let's assume that the replacement level win% is .385. So, in order to get a win-level metric using W and L, you would simply do:
W - .385*(W+L)
Which is .615 W - .385 L
Part 2
Next up is IP and R. Let's assume that replacement level is 6 R / 9 IP. So, to convert IP and R into runs above replacement, we'd do IP * 6/9 - R. To convert to wins, divide all that by 10.
Which is: IP * .067 - R * .10
He also uses ER, so replacement level for that is 5.50 ER / 9 IP. Repeating like above
Which is: IP * .061 - ER * .10
The average of the two is: IP * .064 - R * .05 - ER * .05
And instead of IP, let's use IPouts, which means that there are 3 outs per inning. So, we finally get:
IPouts * .021 - R * .05 - ER * .05
Part 3
Now we have SO and BB. This one is alot easier, since SO = BB is replacement level. Hence, we do SO - BB. To convert to runs you multiply by 0.3 and to convert to wins you divide by 10.
Which is: (SO - BB) * .03
Part 4
Now we want to know how to weight all of that. We can just add them all up, so that they each get an equal weight. But, let's say we want to weight them as 50%, 33.3%, 16.7%, with the IP/R having the most weight and the SO/BB having the least amount of weight. Applying these weights to the above and we get:
IPouts * .0105 - R * .025 - ER * .025
+ .205 W - .128 L
+ (SO - BB) * .005
Part 5
Let's rescale so we don't have all those decimals. So, we'll multiply everything by 40. It doesn't matter what you multiply by, as long as everything gets multiplied by the same thing.
IPouts * 0.42 - R - ER
+ W * 8 - L * 5
+ (SO - BB) * .20
Bill James says...
Bill sent me his formula. For this post, I'll remove the part that deals with Saves and Games Finished. Here's there rest of his metric:
(Thirds of an inning pitched * .425 – Earned Runs Allowed - Runs allowed)
Plus 8 times Wins
Minus 5 times Losses
Plus (Strikeouts Minus Walks) divided by 5
And that's how a metric is born. His metric can be perfectly explained if you think in terms of Wins Above Replacement. If you like the weightings of the three components, then you'll love his metric. Indeed, his metric seems pretty consistent with my Cy Young predictor, in terms of focusing on IP, ERA, W and SO. He considers a bit more, so it has a bit more practicality. But it would seem that it should do quite well as a Cy Young predictor.
So, when you see a pitcher with a Season Score of 320, just divide that by 40. That pitcher would be an 8 WAR pitcher.
I'll look at relief pitchers in part 2, just as soon as I can figure out how he got there.
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• 2016/09/25
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Friday, May 13, 2016
Taken with a grain of salt...
58% |
Clayton Kershaw |
13% |
Jake Arrieta |
6% |
Max Scherzer |
5% |
Madison Bumgarner |
4% |
Stephen Strasburg |
3% |
Jon Lester |
3% |
Noah Syndergaard |
3% |
Johnny Cueto |
2% |
Jose Fernandez |
3% |
Rest |
32% |
Chris Sale |
10% |
Jose Quintana |
8% |
Corey Kluber |
7% |
Danny Salazar |
5% |
David Price |
5% |
Felix Hernandez |
4% |
Jordan Zimmermann |
4% |
Masahiro Tanaka |
3% |
Cole Hamels |
3% |
Chris Archer |
3% |
Marcus Stroman |
2% |
Rich Hill |
2% |
Taijuan Walker |
2% |
Drew Smyly |
11% |
Rest |
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• 2016/08/18
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Thursday, May 12, 2016
?A very good primer by Neil on what FIP is. That people USE it for more than its intended construction, that's not a FIP-issue. As I noted in the comments:
I agree with the analogy of FIP to wOBA. They both:
- use a subset of performances(*)
- weight the values based on their run impact, regardless of when they happened
- scaled to a common scale
(*) FIP ignores batted balls in field of play, and baserunner movement (SB, CS, WP, etc). wOBA ignores baserunner movement.
Friday, May 06, 2016
?Jonathan has changed DRA, and you can see the new considerations for the model here. These are a couple of my minor comments:
Jonathan, thanks for the continued improvements.
Just so I am following along, is your chart showing that the IBB is dependent on the identity of the catcher (over and above the team that the battery is on)? If so, can you show us this "IBB impact" for the leaders/trailers for catchers?
Also, the putout impact of the 1B is dependent on the putout impact of the 3B? If so, is that because the talent level of the 3B allows the SS to move over which allows the 2B to move over? But that if you only focused on the impact of the 2B, that that did not have any relevance? Fascinating if true.
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I also see that your inning parameter, which was so prevalent in your original model has all but disappeared, and limited to just the "extra innings or not".
That was one where it was almost certainly an overfitting, especially when those values would change each year. So, it's good that you are using baseball knowledge in contructing your models, rather than relying on a regression/kitchen sink approach.
In that respect, you'd probably want a "9th inning, tieing runner at bat or on base" parameter, which should be similar to the XI parameter you have. After all, bottom of 9th tie game is much closer to impact as XI tie game than 3rd inning tie game.
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• 2016/10/27
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Friday, April 22, 2016
I love Game Score, perhaps even more than Bill James does and he created it. Bill recently wrote "I was just relying on the Starting Pitcher rankings, which is a system that I believe in." The central component of those rankings is Game Score (or what I have dubbed Game Score Classic). Fangraphs has recently rolled out my version of Game Score (or what I have called Game Score v2.0). Confusing? Not to me, a product of the New Coke v Coke Classic Orwellian campaign. To you? Maybe!
Game Score is, in essence, a little bit of ERA, a little bit of FIP, a little bit of Linear Weights, and a little bit of WAR. All without anyone knowing, and described in an incredibly simple formula, and all along a useful scale of 0-100 (more or less), where 50 is average. Here is what Jake Arrieta's 140 games looks like in chunks of 4 games (so, games 1 - 4 is labelled as "4", etc).
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As you can see, the first 84 games (of which 78 were starts), is Arrieta as an ordinary pitcher. Remember, 50 is average. When you get to 60, that is equivalent to being a .600 pitcher. You can see that in any 4 consecutive games, he never averaged over 60.
Ordinary Arrieta had 19 starts with a Game Score above 56, out of 78. He had another 21 starts at 35 or worse. Given that every pitcher starts with a score of 40 when they take the mound, 35 is not only below average, but below replacement. So, that's what Ordinary Arrieta looked like: about 1/4 of his starts were above average and 1/4 of his starts were below replacement. The average Game Score for Ordinary Arrieta was 46.
Arrieta's last 24 starts have been Extraordinary. He had 22 starts with a Game Score higher than 56. So, whereas Ordinary Jake needed 78 starts to get above the 56 threshold 19 times, Extraordinary Arrieta needed only 24 starts to exceed that threshold 22 times. And his other two starts had a Game Score of 49. Overall, he has an average Game Score of 76. I haven't looked to see what active pitchers have done for a 24 start string, though I presume Kershaw must have reached that level at least once.
It's the 32 starts in-between that we find the Two Jakes colliding with each other (6/8/2014 through 6/16/2015). He had 23 starts above the 56 level, and only 2 starts below the 35 level. He had another 7 starts in-between. This is an overall average of 62. Two put that in perspective, Kershaw's career level is 63. Chris Sale in 2015 was a 60.
So, in those 32 starts, we find half of Ordinary Arrieta and half of Extraordinary Arrieta. And combined, that's already a star pitcher.
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• 2016/04/23
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Wednesday, April 20, 2016
?Bill James has a method that is based on Game Score with more recent starts weighted more, with some adjustments for parks, injuries. We can compare those to Steamer forecasts. While the two systems are not exactly comparable in terms of intent (Bill is backward looking, while Steamer is forward looking), they are more similar in intent than dissimilar.
Number 1 in both systems, far and away, is Kershaw.
Steamer has Sale #2, while Bill has him at #7. Bill has Arrieta at #2, while Steamer has him tied for 4th. They both have Scherezer third. Bill has Greinke 4th, while Steamer has him all the way down at 13th.
Tied for 4th on Steamer is Thor, and THAT is what tells you about Bill's system being "backward looking". I had this discussion with Bill when he first rolled it out, talking about Strasburg and Tanaka. Bill's system is about earning points, so, it's not really a forecast. But, it comes close to it.
Bill has Price 5th, and Steamer has him tied for 8th. Bill has Bumgarner 5th while Steamer has him 16th. It should be noted that Bill includes the playoffs, and I don't know what Steamer does with playoff data for forecasts, but clearly, they should count.
Steamer has Jose Fernandez 6th, so again, he won't appear on Bill's top 20 list for a while because of the nature of his system.
Steamer has Kluber 7th and Bill at 12. Steamer has Stras at 8 and Bill has him at 13.
Bill has Lester at 8 and Steamer has him at 12.
Keuchel is 9th in one and 11th in the other, and at this point, it doesn't really matter which is which.
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• 2016/04/20
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Saturday, March 26, 2016
?You know how it goes right? Felix has been pitching so much for so long, how can he possibly keep going? You don't hear it like: Felix has been pitching so much for so long, he must be indestructible. That's because of the bias of the pitching arm, that it's just one pitch away from a being a blown tire. But, what in fact is the reality?
Is reality Don Sutton and Greg Maddux? From the time Sutton was a 21-yr old rookie, he's been pitching 200+ innings non-stop every year, except for a strike year and, basically, retirement, a feat that Maddux nearly matched. Or is reality Catfish Hunter, who after 4 straight seasons of top 5 Cy Young finishes had 700 IP left in his career?
The boring answer and the true answer is always "in the middle". But, where in the middle? Rather than start with an answer and construct the narrative, let's start with the question and find the answer.
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I looked for all pitchers born between 1931 and 1980. At the age of 29, they had to have at least 2 WAR according to Baseball Reference, with at least 180 IP. In the 4 seasons from ages 26-29, they had to have a total of at least 14 WAR and a total of at least 700 IP. This gave me 64 pitchers. On average, these 64 pitchers had 5.3 WAR at age 29 (Felix had 4.4) and a total of 20 WAR at ages 26-29 (Felix had 21).
In the rest of their career, these pitchers had 22 WAR and 1444 IP (or the equivalent of 7 seasons of 206 IP. And this is what we would forecast for Felix, if we knew nothing about his career prior to age 26. But since we do know, let's continue.
The question: if you have a star pitcher who's been pitching great from age 26 to 29, does it matter how often he was pitching through to age 25, in determining how much baseball life he's got left at age 30 and later?
I will select from these 64 pitchers based on how many innings they threw prior to age 26, with the top 10 being the true young workhorses. They are, in order from most remaining bullets to least: Don Sutton, Greg Maddux, who lasted twice as long as the average of the 64. Then we have John Smoltz, Mark Buehrle who lasted right around the average. Then we continue with Vida Blue, CC Sabathia, Camilo Pascual, Don Drysdale, at about 70% of the group average. Finally we have the flameouts: Catfish Hunter and Sam McDowell.
As you can see, it's pretty much all over the place. On average, these 10 pitchers averaged 1406 IP after age 29, or the equivalent of 7 full seasons of 201 IP. That is, the most worked pitchers prior to age 26 is no different than the entire group, in terms of number of bullets remaining.
In terms of WAR, these 10 averaged 20 wins, which is a bit lower than the 22 for the whole group.
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All-in-all, you will see stories of Felix, every year, of how he's one of the leaders in IP through age.... 26, 27, 28, 29. Every year you have seen those stories. And every year someone will write about "is this the year?". They do this because, eventually, some year WILL be the year. And no one remembers all the bad predictions. And when the predictions finally hits, the writer can stand up and say "See? I told you!" When that inevitably happens, you salute that writer, in whatever manner you think that prediction deserves.
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Roy's salute (image) in his last game for Canadiens (video):
Saturday, January 09, 2016
?Cody Allen led the league in FIP, while having the 7th worst BABIP. Aroldis was very close to Allen in both metrics.
Allen however was far far worse with men on base. His FIP with bases empty was 1.16, while with runners on base it was 2.67. By luck or talent, he did perform much worse with men on base.
His team's BABIP with Allen on the mound was .309 with bases empty and .377 with men on base. In this case, we don't know whether to hold Allen or his fielders (or both) responsible for the abysmal performance with men on base.
Naturally, all that leads to lots of runs scoring, far more than would be expected if you just look at his seasonal line. We just don't know whether to hold Allen or his fielders accountable for all those excess runs.
Chapman also had a much better FIP with bases empty than men on base. However, the Reds BABIP was much lower with men on base than bases empty when Chapman was on the mound (.367 v .295). As a result, much fewer runs scored than if you just look at his seasonal lines. We just don't know how much to credit Aroldis and how much to credit his fielders.
And so the FIP v BABIP debate continues, as every year, we find more pitchers in this boat, always trying to figure out how much to hold the pitcher and his fielders accountable.
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• 2016/01/12
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Pitchers
Tuesday, December 15, 2015
?Terrific stuff from Poz.
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• 2015/12/17
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Pitchers
Wednesday, November 11, 2015
?Jeff does a terrific job at looking at Kershaw's 4th pitch, at how little he uses it, how little he trusts it. He could also have pointed out to his pitch values (per 100 pitches) over at Fangraphs. As you know, the values should all be around the same, and if it isn't, it's a sign that the pitch is being too little or too often (or random variation, or it's not properly adjusted for opposing hitter). So, I don't get too worried, at a first look, if I see someone at +1.1 runs on his fastball and +1.7 runs on his slider and curve. A little adjustment here and there to account for context, and it's probably optimal. Especially if your prior is Kershaw, and he's as good as it gets, so, you gotta figure that it's more likely that he throws his arsenal optimally than to suggest that your formula is right, and he needs to throw his fastball much less.
But his changeup. It's way way way out there at -0.4 runs per 100 pitches. So even though he's given "cover" with his other three great pitches, he can't do anything with his changeup. So, to add to Jeff's results: he throws it with very low frequency, he throws it with very little confidence (low LI), and the results are abysmal.
Kershaw however does better than any pitcher with three pitches. He does better than any pitcher with 4 pitches or 5 pitches.I always think of Felix and Fister when it comes to 5-pitch pitchers. Felix is of course one of the best pitchers of his generation, and has been so since his first MLB pitch when most other pitchers were preparing themselves in college. Fister throws the same pitches as Felix, albeit at 5mph less. And Fister, for quite some time, was one of the best pitchers in the league. Felix at age 38 will be as effective as Fister was at age 28.
But until then, it seems that Felix has so much talent oozing out of his body, that he should be much more consistent and far better than his already very high talent. And I wonder if it's because his arsenal is too big. Is it to his benefit, or detriment, if Felix were to be a three-pitch pitcher like Kershaw, honing each pitch so he too would have a .521 OPS in 2013, and in 2014, and in 2015.
Then again, our prior should be that when you are one of the three best pitchers of your generation, then whatever you are doing is probably already optimized. And maybe Felix, to be in the same league as Kershaw, needs all those pitches.
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• 2015/11/12
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Wednesday, October 28, 2015
?I've had a few dozen email exchanges with Pizza Cutter over the years. He's produced tremendous research in the past that can be referenced for years to come. So, I have high expectations from him. His latest article and my comments that I posted:
The premise to the article is great.
The process to get the answer is great.
The entire payoff was this:
"The results? Nothing. Extra days of rest earlier in the season didn’t help a pitcher in September (or hurt him). Everyone pitched about how their seasonal stats would predict he would, at least in the aggregate."
Not a single piece of data to hang our hat on. If Verducci did this, we'd blast him for it. Baseball Prospectus? Hugely disappointed.
At a pure minimum, can't you just provide a link to the results of the data?
I was just going to leave it there, but I find his response disingenuous:
Tom, it would be a link to a bunch of regression output that showed non-significant finding after non-significant finding. There's only so many times someone can read p = .872 until they glaze over. There just wasn't anything there to show.
So, instead of just talking about the results of his work, we're left to talking about HOW to talk. All I'm asking is for him to provide this:
Russell, you can easily show the "before" data, in terms of IP, and K and BB and ERA, and you can show the "after" data in the same way, and split it based on 4 days rest and 5+ days rest.
I should point out that my comment has already received a -2 rating, which just goes to show that people prefer nice responses that contain nothing, than harsh responses that have legitimate complaints.
(I had a long extra stuff written, but I decided against publishing it.)
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• 2015/10/29
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Sunday, October 25, 2015
?Jeff Zimmerman pointed out that John Lackey came back from Tommy John surgery in the 2013 season.
Lackey had 29 starts in his comeback season. So did Harvey. Lackey threw 2873 pitches, which was just 75 more than Harvey. Lackey started one postseason game in the LDS and one in the LCS, throwing a total of 192 pitches. Harvey has also thrown one in each, totalling 194 pitches.
Lackey ended up with two more starts in the World Series, including the Game Six finale, with another 200 pitches (plus another 17 pitches in relief in Game 4).
For all we know, Matt Harvey's been on the John Lackey rehab plan all along.
Wednesday, October 21, 2015
?MGL takes a look to see how much of an impact each decision has, and how much you have to assume in order to make the decision break-even.
Let's see if I can try to figure it out in one paragraph: a pitcher-as-hitter is some .13 runs per PA worse than league average, or .013 wins per PA, when LI = 1. If LI = 2, then it's .026 wins. If LI = 3, then it's .039 wins. So, that's your cost of letting him hit. What's the gain for letting him pitch? If you assume that an almost-great pitcher gives up runs at 80% of league average, and his replacement is league-average, and an average pitcher gives up about 0.45 runs per inning, then you gain 20% of that, or .09 runs per inning, or .009 wins per inning. If he pitches 2 innings, that's .018 wins at LI = 1. At LI = 2, it's .036 wins.
All in all, prima facie, you have to work it out, but it may be break-even. But MGL went through the machinations more closely, and he shows that the decision is pretty straight forward. All to say: everyone should roll up their sleeves and work it out. And don't forget the huge PH penalty too!
Wednesday, October 14, 2015
If you want a pitcher to answer "how do you feel?", then listen to a press conference with professional writers. But if you want a pitcher to talk about the evolution of his pitches, then here's another terrific piece by blogger Eno.
Tuesday, October 13, 2015
?This is an opening study, but it's clear that you need sample size.
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