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Now I’ll actually put some of the “highlights” on this blog. I’ll add more in the future. I’ll keep the tags of my interests so it’s easier to know what I’m into.

Dionysus’ iceberg : an essay on why this god is much more nuanced than in adaptations.

Maomao’s family is awesome: Part 2 is in my drafts. I’ll complete it one day… in the meantime, here’s part 1 about Lakan and Luomen :

Translator adventures : me reading “Perseus’ grandson” by Henry Lion Oldie, which is only available in Russian for now. And since I don’t speak Russian, I’m kinda dependent on translators that don’t 100% work 😂. I’m kinda summarizing the plot but mostly sharing my impressions of it. Here’s the first reading :

My favorite mythological characters : in case someone asks me again :3

Question about retellings : this pin is more for myself and because of my mutuals’ advice.

My Epic the musical fanfic (strictly Epic, don’t use Odyssey tags please)

My other posts on “#not a reblog”

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superkooku

This art gives me Pygmalion and Galatea vibes, which definitely fits considering how Lord Henry and even Basil treated Dorian as this beautiful blank canvas that they could keep to themselves .

To Basil, Dorian is his muse, the main instrument of his art, the perfect piece.

To Henry, he’s an entertaining fool that he can influence as he pleases so he indulges in hedonism.

Little problem : Dorian isn’t a statue just brought to life but an actual grown man with zero support net and very little self-reflection that is always squandered either by himself or Lord Henry. His bad tendencies are encouraged the whole time and now he’s making it everyone’s problem 🤣

Anonymous asked

Anonymous asked:

My friend group has decided to call me “the oracle of the group” because whenever they ask for advice and I give them said advice and not to do something because it’s dumb and they don’t take my advice, what I say will happen, happens. So now every lunch they say in their most dramatic voice “my oracle…I need your sight…”


And now I’ve just started playing along bc it’s funny and I bet you will totally know who I am even with anon on

At least you’re better off than Cassandra 🤣. Constantly hit by Apollo’s dodgeball but people actually trust you.

It’s kinda like my mom. Because every time she gives me some advice and I don’t listen, it backfires some way or another. So I often ask for her opinion just in case.

And, call me stupid, but I unfortunately don’t recognize you and any try I’d make would be an educated guess at best (though I maybe know who you aren’t considering you don’t show some of my moots’ writing voice)

Little trivia about me : I’m terrible at recognizing people, even irl. I’d have to meet someone at least twice for some period of time to memorize their face accurately 😅. Especially if they look like another person nearby.

And I also suck with names.

Now I’m kinda curious to know who you are so I can be like “ooooooh, ok it’s you !”. So, if you’d like, it would be fun.

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One of my Dorian Gray hot takes is that there was absolutely nothing in Dorian and Basil's relationship that was healthy. I keep seeing posts like "Basil's love for Dorian was so pure, that's why the portrait was so pretty and the real villain of the story is Wotton because he corrupted it"

As I see it, yes, Wotton did corrupt him, but saying Basil's feelings for Dorian were pure is simply inaccurate to the story. Basil says himself he merely sees Dorian as an artistic ideal [Dorian Gray is to me simply a motive in art. I find him in the curves of certain lines, in the loveliness and subtleties of certain colours. That is all; ch1] and admitted he (a 10 year older man, who had power over him) tried to isolate him from other people and "keep him to himself". Furthermore, Basil also plays a big role in the way Dorian sees himself and his beauty, by painting him everyday and not maintaining any conversation with him, he's indirectly reaffirming what Wotton tells him: people only care about you because you're pretty and young. There is also this scene from the second chapter:

Dorian Gray turned and looked at him. "I believe you would, Basil. You like your art better than your friends. I am no more to you than a green bronze figure. Hardly as much, I dare say.

The painter stared in amazement. It was so unlike Dorian to speak like that. What had happened? He seemed quite angry. His face was flushed and his cheeksburning.

"Yes," he continued, "I am less to you than your ivory Hermes or your silver Faun. You will like them always. How long will you like me? Till I have my first wrinkle, I suppose. I know, now, that when one loses one's good looks, whatever they may be, one loses everything. Your picture has taught me that. Lord Henry Wotton is perfectly right. Youth is the only thing worth having. When I find that I am growing old, I shall kill myself."

Hallward turned pale and caught his hand. "Dorian! Dorian!" he cried, "don't talk like that. I have never had such a friend as you, and I shall never have suchanother. You are not jealous of material things, are you?-you who are finer than any of them!"

Dorian is even dealing with a suicidal ideation over what Wotton has told him and the way Basil sees him, he needs emotional validation, he's asking to be told there's more than him than that, and Basil's reaction is just─ no. You're prettier than any other object (indirectly comparing him to one, too).

Basil's view of Dorian influences how he sees people as much as Wotton's. For example, to Dorian Sybil was only what she pretended to be, he loved her performance, her acting, how she did exactly what the public wanted (which can apply to Dorian himself), not the real her. She was only an artistic ideal to him, she meant to him exactly what Dorian meant to Basil. He ignored her desires, pain and everything not related to what he wanted to see, since that's what he's been taught he must appreciate.

I also disagree with the interpretation of the portrait as a "pure" reflection of Basil's love (I would personally rather describe it as an obsession, though) and Dorians soul because it's not. At least not entirely. Part of the point of the book is that everyone only saw the part of Dorian they wanted: the portrait represents Basil's idolized version of him, what he wanted to see and how he refused to see Dorian as a person instead of an artistic ideal. That's why he tried to make him redeem himself, because he hated seeing his version of Dorian shatter into pieces. It was never Dorian entirely, not even after aging terribly because that's the result of Basil and Wotton's influence. The portrait was not his soul, it was a modified version of it other people played with because nobody cared about the whole thing, and the influence was so big those parts became his whole being. So it was just an idolized, molded version at first but turned into his real self with the time and the sins. Dorian's soul (the portrait) was constructed upon what others appreciated about him, so when Wotton motivated him to sin, because Dorian's potential to be terrible was what mattered to him, it became ugly and terrible. There was absolutely nothing pure about that portrait since day 1.

superkooku

Ok, I started off by commenting this but now I want to reblog so I can add more thoughts.

I already said that Basil deserves better in my opinion (with a bit of humor too), but that doesn’t mean I think he’s faultless, just that getting murked by the person you love is horrible.

But this love isn’t a healthy normal one, but rather the kind OP described.

Basil was obsessed with an ideal of perfection that just didn’t exist. He valued Dorian’s appealing appearance over anything else, including the MANY red flags that were all in his face.

He saw how Sybil took her own life right after Dorian went to talk to her, how all these people who met him saw their lives ruined and yet, when he finally recognized them, he went all “I can fix him”. (Because he was pretty. That’s it.)

This book is a tragedy. And like all tragedies, everyone involved is flawed (and interesting to read about). It’s just that some flaws are more in your face either because the character appears more or because these flaws are just more blatant. Dorian fits both criterias but that doesn’t remove our good ol’ painter’s imperfections.

Listen, I think Henry should open his mouth less often. But saying Basil is pure just doesn’t really fit, imo.

Was it romance ? Probably (100% one-sided though). A healthy one ? No. For neither of them, even though Basil ultimately got the short end of the stick.

(also, that bit about Dorian wanting emotional validation is something I didn’t notice yet. Well observed)

Basil : finally gathers the courage to make a beautiful and heartfelt confession to the person he loves and admires, explaining all his feelings in detail and gushing about how perfect and beautiful he is, both as a muse for his art and as an ideal for society.

Meanwhile Dorian :

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Ariadne and Andromeda made them wear it. Trust me on this!

Huge thanks to @sarafangirlart and @superkooku for the idea!!

superkooku

Lol 🤣

I headcannon Ariadne and Andromeda going along neatly, being friends and all (and complaining about their families together) while Dionysus and Perseus fight the whole time.

Then they agree with Athena and Hermes’ idea of making them wear this T-shirt 🤣.

Because Ariadne didn’t die for them to continue fighting as if it didn’t do any damage

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Ah yes the three genders.

superkooku

Lol

Also, I love how sly Henry Wotton looks in this, contrary to Basil who just looks like a chill guy who just wants to be left alone.

And Dorian is Dorian. He looks like the mix between a porcelain doll and an innocent boy, which isn’t a flaw or anything, it reflects how people view him quite well.

I’m reading the cure inscriptions of Epidaurus and some of these stories are just so funny.

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Asclepius is a very funny man with zero self-restraint and I LOVE it. He heals people, he gets the job done but really in the way he wants, usually not the conventional one.

He involves a bunch of animals, comes to people with the weirdest visions possible and if he’s not happy he straight up takes everything back because how dare you.

And here is Asclepius continuing to resurrect the dead again despite the fact that he was killed for it (and the fact that this has more than one source shows how important this story is. Asclepius is a recidivist)

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And here’s him being sassy

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I love how eccentric this guy is.

@gingermintpepper