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1 Arm Slots Revisited Matt Lentzner Arm Slots Revisited Matt Lentzner

2 About Me My main interest is in physical computer simulations. Tried to do a baseball simulation and realized that baseball was not as well understood as I had assumed. Trying to figure this stuff out really caught my interest. About Me

3 Goal Qualitatively model how arm angles affect pitching Goal Qualitatively model how arm angles affect pitching

4 Easy Quiz What pitch is the most basic and elemental in a pitcher’s repertoire? What pitch is typically thrown with the most velocity? What pitch has the most break? Easy Quiz What pitch is the most basic and elemental in a pitcher’s repertoire What pitch is typically thrown with the most velocity

5 The Fastball The reference point for all pitching because it is the most efficient. Most Velocity Most Spin Least Taxing to Throw Most importantly it is thrown “inline” with the arm. The spin is aligned to the arm slot. The Fastball The reference point for all pitching because it is the most efficient. Most Velocity.

6 The Thesis Using a horizontal/vertical scatter plot of pitch movement: A line drawn from the origin (0,0) to the fastball cluster will describe the arm slot. The Thesis

7 Jonathan Papelbon Jonathan Papelbon

8 Hideki Okajima Hideki Okajima

9 Brad Ziegler Brad Ziegler

10 All other pitches work off the Fastball
Cutter (-3 mph) Fastball (-0 mph) Splitter (-5 mph) Change Up (-9 mph) Slider (-7 mph) Sinker (-3 mph) Change Up (-9 mph) Slurve (-10 mph?) Curve (-13 mph) The Pitching Peanut (high ¾ arm slot) All other pitches work off the Fastball

11 Is there a practical value to all this? Is there a practical value to all this

12 Pitch Typing without Arm Slots (This only works with high 3/4 arm slots) Pitch Typing without Arm Slots (This only works with high 3/4 arm slots)

13 How you do Pitch Typing using arm slots
Pitch Identification Use the technique in reverse: know ahead of time what the arm slot is and apply the template Even pitchers who don’t throw a in game fastball can still be ID’ed once you know the arm slot How you do Pitch Typing using arm slots

14 Derek Lowe Derek Lowe

15 Roy Halladay Roy Halladay

16 Josh Beckett Josh Beckett

17 Johan Santana Just Flip the Peanut for Lefties Johan Santana Just Flip the Peanut for Lefties

18 How to ID Pitches ID the pitch by offset angle Yes No
Is it a fastball, sinker, or changeup? Use offset ID Compare pitch speed to determine if a changeup or splitter How to ID Pitches ID the pitch by offset angle Yes No

19 Questions? Questions

20 Spins Fastball Cutter Slider Slurve Curve Sinker Spins Fastball Cutter Slider Slurve Curve Sinker

21 On the plus side we don’t need high precision
Estimating Arm Slot from PITCH f/x release points (as opposed to scouting it) Lots of problems Stride Length Posture Position on Rubber (24” wide) Listed heights (which imply arm length) are not accurate (especially for vertically challenged players) On the plus side we don’t need high precision On the plus side we don’t need high precision

22 Jonathan Papelbon 6’4” Jonathan Papelbon 6’4

23 Brad Ziegler 6’4” Brad Ziegler 6’4


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