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Can you approve my vietnamese keyboard at first?
I need more time to adjust my cantonese keyboard document.
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It is a build in dictionary for vietnamese typer to typer faster in personal compuer.
It includes those most frequent vietnamese words. You can use acronym and TAB to type the words fast.
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Can you remove the [K_TAB] rules? We should never have approved a keyboard with that key used this way.
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They are not many, less than 100.
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It is a build in dictionary for vietnamese typer to typer faster in personal compuer.
It includes those most frequent vietnamese words. You can use acronym and TAB to type the words fast.
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Can you approve this update? Thank you
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They are not many, less than 100.
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> It is a build in dictionary for vietnamese typer to typer faster in personal compuer.
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>> Can you remove the [K_TAB] rules? We should never have approved a keyboard with that key used this way.
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As said earlier, I would like [K_Tab] to not be redefined.
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>> It is a build in dictionary for vietnamese typer to typer faster in
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>> It includes those most frequent vietnamese words. You can use acronym
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@Cathaylaboratory For typing logographic scripts or handling large sets of rules, you may find RIME (https://rime.im/) to be a better fit. In the article How to advance your language to the digital / AI age there's a section on "Input methods and keyboards" that describes RIME: "You only need some basic knowledge of regular expressions to build an IME for any language. Here is an example of building an Ugaritic keyboard https://github.com/laubonghaudoi/rime-ugaritic You only need to provide a lexicon and a rule mapping file, then deploy to the engine and you can type it just as any other language." I've not used it myself so I could be totally wrong, but I'm wondering if it would better suit the keyboards you're creating. |
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The rules in Vietnam keyboard. They are not large set of rules. They are just several functions to transfer the very common acronyms in Vietnamese into its full version. They have no link with IME.
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***@***.***(https://github.com/Cathaylaboratory) For typing logographic scripts or handling large sets of rules, you may find RIME (https://rime.im/) to be a better fit. In the article [How to advance your language to the digital / AI age](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1svAPnKur1u_QFsq8GVDVI7-LpcRflMrYP2bF2i9rlL8/) there's a section on "Input methods and keyboards" that describes RIME: "You only need some basic knowledge of regular expressions to build an IME for any language. Here is an example of building an Ugaritic keyboard https://github.com/laubonghaudoi/rime-ugaritic You only need to provide a lexicon and a rule mapping file, then deploy to the engine and you can type it just as any other language."
I've not used it myself so I could be totally wrong, but I'm wondering if it would better suit the keyboards you're creating.
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Rime is not a good software because it is based on Mandarin Chinese and the logic of typing mandarin chinese. They can not truly type language with phonetic symbols such as Japanese. If you don’t know mandarin chinese you can not use this software. They are not supported on many devices.
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***@***.***(https://github.com/Cathaylaboratory) For typing logographic scripts or handling large sets of rules, you may find RIME (https://rime.im/) to be a better fit. In the article [How to advance your language to the digital / AI age](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1svAPnKur1u_QFsq8GVDVI7-LpcRflMrYP2bF2i9rlL8/) there's a section on "Input methods and keyboards" that describes RIME: "You only need some basic knowledge of regular expressions to build an IME for any language. Here is an example of building an Ugaritic keyboard https://github.com/laubonghaudoi/rime-ugaritic You only need to provide a lexicon and a rule mapping file, then deploy to the engine and you can type it just as any other language."
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It is not a IME but for shortcut keys. In Japanese keyboard the TAB key is exactly used in this way.
It is my innovation.
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As said earlier, I would like [K_Tab] to not be redefined.
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> >> It is a build in dictionary for vietnamese typer to typer faster in
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> >> It includes those most frequent vietnamese words. You can use acronym
> and TAB to type the words fast.
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From memory in Windows, the TAB key has two different functions in the Japanese IME:
This is a feature built into Window's IME code base, it isn't part of their keyboard layout code base. If I remember correctly. If I am understanding your request correctly you want to add certain IME functionality to a keyboard layout? |
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Wouldn't word selection be better handled by the lexical models? And improving support for text prediction instead? |
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The keyman lexical model have not existed in personal computer yet. The lexical model in phone can not deal with coombination such as acronyms. The keyman lexical model need to be developped as well as the IME.
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Wouldn't word selection be better handled by the lexical models? And improving support for text prediction instead?
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In the Microsoft word, this software can predict the word, you need to type TAB then the word will generate the predicted word. Many editor in email such as Look also work like this. So I set the rules "acronyms + TAB > full words"
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From memory in Windows, the TAB key has two different functions in the Japanese IME:
- Before focus is in the candidate window: Enter the prediction candidate window
- With focus in the candidate window: Move the selection down.
This is a feature built into Window's IME code base, it isn't part of their keyboard layout code base. If I remember correctly.
If I am understanding your request correctly you want to add certain IME functionality to a keyboard layout?
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