Talk:none

What is the meaning of nones here? --Backinstadiums (talk) 19:06, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Presumably a whimsical modification of "none", as in "none too cool", not cool. Not standard English. Equinox ◑ 12:59, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

to refuse to tolerate something
We asked him to explain himself, but he would have none of it.
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009

--Backinstadiums (talk) 12:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Or "not having any of it", etc. Equinox ◑ 12:59, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Equinox: O.K., but not have any (of) isn't added yet either --Backinstadiums (talk) 12:33, 15 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Backinstadiums Yes, this seems to be a particular strange and idiomatic use of have (and I believe it's British and probably not American English). Perhaps raise it in WT:TR. I am happy to support and explain the construction but I'm not sure how we can best cover it. Equinox ◑ 01:20, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Equinox: have reads

(transitive, often with present participle) To allow; to tolerate. 
The child screamed incessantly for his mother to buy him a toy, but she wasn't having any of it.
(transitive, often used in the negative) To believe, buy, be taken in by.
I made up an excuse as to why I was out so late, but my wife wasn't having any of it.

--Backinstadiums (talk) 02:17, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Backinstadiums We could say that "have" sometimes means "accept" or "tolerate": you can also say "I'm not having it!" (but maybe "having any of it" is more common). Equinox ◑ 20:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

According to Garner's fourth edition,

None is is the more emphatic way of expressing an idea. But it’s also the less common way, particularly in educated speech, and it therefore sounds somewhat stilted. The problem is exacerbated by the unfortunate fact that some stylists and publications insist that none is always singular, even in the most awkward constructions.

However, I do not understand what the author is referrig to --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Backinstadiums I don't think "none is..." is a very common phrase. I think this text is discussing usage like "none of them is/are willing to do it" (for example). Equinox ◑ 20:14, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Why's the singular and plural agreement of None of those people is/are my father expressed with those different definitions? --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:25, 26 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

[used with a plural verb] 4. not any persons or things:  There were many and now there are none.
2. not any: That is none of your business. 
3. no part; nothing: I'll have none of that.

--Backinstadiums (talk) 12:10, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

https://oed.com/oed2/00159141 --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:35, 22 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

When none is modified by almost, it is difficult to avoid treating the word as a plural: Almost none of the officials were interviewed by the committee. https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=none

--Backinstadiums (talk) 08:29, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

[Archaic.] not any; no (usually used only before a vowel or h):
Thou shalt have none other gods but me.
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/none

--Backinstadiums (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's Hildy! - None other. How are things? --Backinstadiums (talk) 10:27, 20 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

[[none other]] ⇒ no other person --Backinstadiums (talk) 14:39, 20 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

What meanings of none ? Secondly, what's its etymology? --Backinstadiums (talk) 22:04, 18 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

(Idioms, literary) only : None but he knew the truth. --Backinstadiums (talk) 10:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

compare nothing but --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)Reply