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I Thought...
I thought part of the purpose of Wikipedia was to allow more obscure articles on lesser known things that a regular encyclopedia would not contain. Thus, I'm wondering what this deal is with my band (in the article "Brethren (band)") not being "significant enough" (as according to the reason for deletion)? We are an active band and making music, and we have a MySpace page showing all of this. Sure, we aren't signed and aren't well-known outside of our home town, but that's how many bands are or were, especially when they started. Despite this, we've had a fair share of history, and that's the main thing our Wiki page was talking about. So, anyway... I guess my question is, does the page really have grounds for removal? And can I get it back?
- WP:NOTABILITY is the issue... sorry. Jmlk17 23:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Ohhhh! Naked talk page!
~*Ariel grabs her spray paint and sprays graffiti all over!*~ , how are you tonight (this morning)? You're certainly up late (or early)! Anything cool going on? Ariel♥Gold 09:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Nothing really honestly. Can't sleep, my jaw is killing me, and I am relatively bored. How about you? Jmlk17 09:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Awww, why is your jaw hurting? You get hit by someone? lol. Need a dentist? I had a busy (for me) day, had to go see my accountant, then I went and got a haircut, and went shopping. Way exciting, huh? Now I'm beat and about to head to bed, lol. I hope you feel better soon sweetie! Ariel♥Gold 22:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds like a fun day! As for my jaw, I think I mentioned I broke it back in March, and was wired shut for 6 weeks. It's just residual pain I think, and as the weather changes, by jaw gets tight and sore, and it's getting a bit annoying! :) Jmlk17 22:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, I don't remember you telling me that! Jeez, how'd you break it? (Feel free to email me if you don't want it on your talk page, lol) Take some Advil, that's good for that kind of pain. I'm sorry you aren't feeling well, the weather here is... uncharacteristically summerlike. We have yet to get a single day of even "cool" weather, it is still hot and humid, ugh. I love winter, wish it would get here already! lol. Okay, I'm off to bed now, I'll talk to you soon dear! Ariel♥Gold 22:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lol, I thought I had told ya! The combination of my face meeting the business end of a check in hockey didn't end up too well, and I woke up in the recovery room, full of morphine and no clue what happened really. It was honestly the worst time I have ever had in my entire life to this point. I had a horrible time. :( But anywho, that's over for the most part. I've been taking Advil the past 2 days actually, and while it's taking the edge off, I can still complain! We're getting only into the upper 60s and low 70s during the day(s) here, but cooling off into the 30s at night...brrrr! Winter will be here before we know it! Sleep well my friend, and I hope to talk to you soon! :) Jmlk17 22:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Wow, I don't remember you telling me that! Jeez, how'd you break it? (Feel free to email me if you don't want it on your talk page, lol) Take some Advil, that's good for that kind of pain. I'm sorry you aren't feeling well, the weather here is... uncharacteristically summerlike. We have yet to get a single day of even "cool" weather, it is still hot and humid, ugh. I love winter, wish it would get here already! lol. Okay, I'm off to bed now, I'll talk to you soon dear! Ariel♥Gold 22:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds like a fun day! As for my jaw, I think I mentioned I broke it back in March, and was wired shut for 6 weeks. It's just residual pain I think, and as the weather changes, by jaw gets tight and sore, and it's getting a bit annoying! :) Jmlk17 22:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for HRC protection
Thanks for restoring semi-protection to Hillary Rodham Clinton. The admin who recently unprotected it obviously had a faith in humanity unwarranted by reality. Wasted Time R 11:38, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lol, I just know the vandals around here would love to have that unprotected. :) Jmlk17 21:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Re: Bad AIV report
You wrote: "administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. For User:70.68.179.142 the warning was given here Oct. 9 at 16:14. Vandalism occurred here Oct. 9 at 20:48 and here Oct. 9 at 21:02, both times after the final warning. Please reconsider. Also note that he will continue vandalizing if the page is not protected. Thanks. Ward3001 22:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, in the end, it is their personal talk page, not an article space. :) Jmlk17 22:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- My understanding (from several other similar incidents) is that an anonymous IP talk page is no one's personal talk page, and that warnings and templates especially should not be removed. Otherwise vandals could wreak havoc on anonymous talk pages. If you do not wish to block and/or protect the page, will you be offended if I relist it at WP:AIV? Thanks. Ward3001 22:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lol Ward3001, it takes a lot to offend me, so feel free to go ahead an relist it. I actually wasn't even the admin who removed the report; it was DarkFalls I believe. I may be a little iffy on the anonymous IP talk page issue myself, so feel more than free...no offense at all taken. :) Jmlk17 22:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- My understanding (from several other similar incidents) is that an anonymous IP talk page is no one's personal talk page, and that warnings and templates especially should not be removed. Otherwise vandals could wreak havoc on anonymous talk pages. If you do not wish to block and/or protect the page, will you be offended if I relist it at WP:AIV? Thanks. Ward3001 22:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Catarina Cardoso Bio
Hey Jmlk17, Why have you deleted "Catarina Cardoso" bio page?
She is a promissing 14 year old singer.
Please restore it so I can finish reading.
ty VC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.22.64.34 (talk • contribs) 16:47, October 9, 2007
- I deleted it due to issues of WP:NOTABILITY. Jmlk17 23:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank You!
I just wanted to send a note of thanks for the time, efforts and energy that you donate to Wikipedia. Fine folks like you keep this site running well and I thank you for it.Magkaz 23:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lol, thank you! Always nice to be complimented around here. Thank you as well for your efforts! :) Jmlk17 23:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Archived Already?
Man, your talk page moves fast! Haha. Anyway, sorry that we missed each other yesterday, you want to set up a time when we'll both be around to start working stuff out? GlassCobra (Review) 23:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Lol, it used to take like a month or two before I would archive. Now, I'm lucky to get to a couple of weeks, if that! As for the time, I'm free sporadically, sometimes quite a bit, other time not at all. The life of us college kids eh? I would say take a perusal over virtual classroom, see if anything is interesting/necessary in your opinion. I know you have an editor review going on (in the signature), and there's nothing better for uhm, bettering your editing skills than an editor review. I really wish I had done one in fact. You're doing quite well with work in admin-related areas, and I suggest keeping that up. Overall, you're looking pretty good, and the only issue with some may be overall experience, but that is going up everyday, and growing day by day as well. :) Jmlk17 23:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good. :) I remember in an RfA a bit ago, seeing that the candidate's admin coach had made them, like, admin quizzes. Do you remember seeing that? I think that would be sort of cool. GlassCobra (Review) 02:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I may recall something like that. Let me dig around and see what I can find. :) Jmlk17 06:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good. :) I remember in an RfA a bit ago, seeing that the candidate's admin coach had made them, like, admin quizzes. Do you remember seeing that? I think that would be sort of cool. GlassCobra (Review) 02:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the support.
Hi Jmlk17,
Thanks for coming out in support of my second RFA. Although I was disappointed in the outcome of the self-nomination, I am glad that you were able to provide support for the second nomination.
I am loathe to spam the regulars, so I decided to send you this brief note. Thanks again, and I hope to see you around. Cheers, --Aarktica 00:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Very welcome! :) Jmlk17 00:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank You!
Thank you so much for the semi-protection of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008! I really appreciate it. :-) Bmg916Speak 00:13, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sure thing. :) Jmlk17 00:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Charlotte Collingwood & Kevin Locke
I do not understand your reasons for deleting these articles. The are about performers I have seen and been impressed with several times recently, The references are clearly verifiable. I would like to replace them as I believe these hard working musicians should be acknowledged. What should I do please? Dylanmills 07:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- How are they notable? Jmlk17 08:00, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Admin coaching
Of course I don't mind! You can use any/all of the questions at User:Glen/Admin coaching - or, do what I do and just create a subpage in their userspace with {{subst:User:Glen/Admin coaching}}. I also "coached" Riana (not that she needed it) and I believe the pages are still in her userspace too. Thanks for asking! :) Glen 03:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Nice! Thank you!!! :) Jmlk17 21:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Charlotte Collingwood
Why is Charlotte Collingwood notable? As well as having been a West End actress (Lady In The Dark: Royal National Theatre 1997, original cast recording ASIN: B000006PVR), she is one of the busiest singers in England. As well as over 100 gigs a year as part of a duo, her quartet and quintet are fully booked for months ahead. She is certainly notable enough for her corporate clients for 2005-2006 to include: Dresdner Kleinwort , John Lewis Partnership, Saatchi & Saatchi, Sainsbury’s and Tesco. Kevin Locke I will concede as I know little of his past, he has however performed for these clients too. Dylanmills 09:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
RFA Thanks
My dear Wikipedian Jmlk17,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 36 supports, 3 opposed, and 1 neutral. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, or even if you just stopped by to make a comment, I thank you for taking the time to drop by. Since I am a new admin, if you have any suggestions or concerns, feel free to inform me of them. I will be sure to prove to you that I am capabale of handling Admin duties. Thank you and good day.
Credits
This RFA thanks was inspired by The Random Editor, who in turn was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunately this is not entirely my own design.
This end the usual RFA thanks spam. You may return to your regular editing now.
- Ah, the good ol' fashioned card. Best of luck! :) Jmlk17 07:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
RFA Thank You Note from Jehochman
Ready to swab the deck! | ||
Another motley scallawag has joined the crew. Thanks for your comments at my RFA. Arrrgh! - - Jehochman Talk 23:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC) |
- Very welcome, good luck! :) Jmlk17 07:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
My recent RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi(t|c|b|cn) 00:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- Very welcome; best of luck! :) Jmlk17 07:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Please undelete Indicybers
Please undelete Indicybers. Ample references can be provided for its notability and other factors. Indicybers is a highly notable Indic Computing service provider and it is unfortunate that you deleted its page. Hi pedler 06:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)hi_pedler
- Sorry, it's due to issues of notability. Jmlk17 07:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- if you cannot undelete it then refer me to a forum on WP where I can present the refernces and request undeletion Hi pedler 06:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)hi_pedler
- Head on over to deletion review. Jmlk17 06:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
RfA thanks
With thanks! | ||
Thanks for participating in my RfA, which closed successfuly. I leave you with a picture of the real Blood Red Sandman! Note his 'mop' is slightly deadlier than mine! - - Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC) |
- Damn...good luck! :) Jmlk17 21:27, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Review
Hi. I hope not to annoy you but I only have one review at Wikipedia:Editor review/Tbo 157 and I am trying to get a wide opinion about my editing preferably from experienced editors such as yourself. I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a bit of time to review me but of course it is up to you. If you do review me could you try and look for my weak areas and raise any criticisms you may have about me as an editor. Thanks very much. Tbo 157(talk) (review) 17:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sure thing. :) Always glad to help. I shall stop by later this evening or tomorrow and leave some notes! :) Jmlk17 20:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for agreeing to review me:). Tbo 157(talk) (review) 21:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi. I don't want to be persistent but its been a few days since you agreed to review me. Can I ask if you are still willing to review me? I don't mind if you can't. Thanks:). Tbo 157(talk) (review) 17:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Man, I'm losing it in my old age. Done! :) Jmlk17 17:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review and for your time. I will consider what you said in the review very carefully. Happy editing to you too. :) Tbo 157(talk) (review) 18:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Man, I'm losing it in my old age. Done! :) Jmlk17 17:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hi. I don't want to be persistent but its been a few days since you agreed to review me. Can I ask if you are still willing to review me? I don't mind if you can't. Thanks:). Tbo 157(talk) (review) 17:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for agreeing to review me:). Tbo 157(talk) (review) 21:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Coaching
Hey man, I'm all finished with the questions. I was thinking maybe you could critique my answers a bit? Hit me up on here or on AIM, okay? Thanks! GlassCobra (Review) 20:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well now you're there, but not online... :P GlassCobra 23:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm around... I'll add my comments to the page in a little bit. :) Jmlk17 23:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done. :) Jmlk17 23:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm around... I'll add my comments to the page in a little bit. :) Jmlk17 23:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Extreme Vandal
Jesus Christ, look at this. Some vandal added over a million bytes (1,217,237) to User:Daniel Case of "this guy is a fag" over and over again. Just a tiny bit bitter about something, I guess. GlassCobra 16:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Jesus, I guess so lol. Jmlk17 17:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Notice
Thanks for the notice. It was greatly appreciated. Haysead 20:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- Very welcome. :) Jmlk17 20:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Removing External Links
BlackSun 23:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Jmlk17, I'm a strong contributor to the Wikipedia community, and nowhere is it banned to place a single link to an external site under the topic heading for which the site is named. That site has been maintained continuously since 2001, philosophically expounds upon the concept of Black Sun, and certainly warrants listing under the Black Sun section. If it does not, then you will have to get rid of all other commercial and non-comercial links under that category. Black Sun Journal is non-profit and non-commercial. I don't think one admin has the authority to make this kind of determination. It sounds like you are trying to be the ideology police. Chill out please.
- I heartily disagree. I'm not the "police" as you accuse me to be, nor do I need to chill out. Your external link is simply advertising, and nothing more, hence the removal. :) Jmlk17 07:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Dear Jmlk17, ______ __ __ __ /\__ _\/\ \ /\ \ /\ \ \/_/\ \/\ \ \___ __ ___\ \ \/'\ __ __ ___ __ __\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ _ `\ /'__`\ /' _ `\ \ , < /\ \/\ \ / __`\/\ \/\ \\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \/\ \_\.\_/\ \/\ \ \ \\`\\ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \ \ \_\ \\ \_\ \ \_\ \ \_\ \_\ \__/.\_\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \_\/`____ \ \____/\ \____/ \/\_\ \/_/ \/_/\/_/\/__/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/`/___/> \/___/ \/___/ \/_/ /\___/ \/__/ For your contribution to My RfA, which passed with 8000 Supports, 2 Neutrals and no opposes.
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- Hah, very welcome! Congrats! :) Jmlk17 08:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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Fast turnaround
Thanks for the quick addition of my name to NP watcher! Ciao for now. Phgao 12:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sure thing. Happy editing! :) Jmlk17 17:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Grooveshark
6 October 2007 you deleted the article about Grooveshark citing CSD G4: Recreation of deleted material, which was originally deleted because of Criteria for Speedy Deletion, A7.
However, I believe that A7 does not apply to Grooveshark any longer:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Out_Loud
- http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oew-healey15oct15,0,1679894.story?coll=la-opinion-center
- http://netscape.com.com/8301-2007_4-9778969-12.html
- http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/09/26/making-p2p-pay-grooveshark-review/
- http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/09/new-drm-free-p2.html
- http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/10/all-25-million-.html
- http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/10/p2p-music-sharing-service-grooveshark-ups-compensation/
- http://crunchgear.com/2007/09/16/screencast-early-look-at-grooveshark-music-service/
As you can see by following some of those links there is some controversy surrounding Grooveshark's approach to music sales (especially their EULA) and a Wikipedia entry would seem like a good place to go for information, however at this time the article is locked to prevent people from re-creating it. Can you please review your decision to lock this article? Thanks.
RfA Thanks
Battle of Britain
I noticed you have unprotected the above. The vandals are back on this page and its bad. I suggest full protection be granted. I also see its equally appalling on the Battle of france page.Dapi89 21:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
ACID
You helped choose 12-hour clock as this week's WP:ACID winner
RfA thank-spam
Thank you! Thank you for your help in my RfA. It hammered home a few things I need to keep in mind while admining and passed with a final tally of 40/0/4; two people forgot to vote in time, leaving me short of that exquisite number :-(, but I'll just have to fudge the next vote about me. Adminship feels slightly august but not particularily exalted, so I shall endeavour to consider it a toolkit and make sincere efforts to know what I'm doing before using it. If you later on have something to say or want to ask for -- MESSAGE EATEN BY BEARS --Kizor 14:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC) |
- Very welcome... good luck! Jmlk17 06:50, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
DRV Notice
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Grooveshark. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.--- Jreferee t/c 15:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Seems I caught up after the close, but thanks for the note. Jmlk17 06:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Disputed fair use rationale for Image:DeltaSigmaPhiflag.gif
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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 04:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed. Ariel♥Gold 05:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Ariel. :) Jmlk17 06:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
It's been a while...what's up?
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Remember where to reply! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Creationism. Sexy. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:28, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Although someone is almost as sexy as someone else! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- We Americans do look damn fine. Jmlk17 08:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- OMG SIF! Seriously though, that image should be on commons. *shakes fist* Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Blah... Jmlk17 08:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- OMG SIF! Seriously though, that image should be on commons. *shakes fist* Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- We Americans do look damn fine. Jmlk17 08:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Although someone is almost as sexy as someone else! Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 08:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Successful RfA - Thank you!
Thank you for participating in my recent RfA. It was successful, and I was promoted to Administrator today. I appreciate your comments and will take them to heart as I learn the ropes. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Very welcome... good luck! :) Jmlk17 23:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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My (KWSN's) RFA
Thank you for supporting my recent (and successful!) RfA. It passed at at 55/17/6. Kwsn (Ni!) 01:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Very welcome... good luck! :) Jmlk17 09:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
My advice
This will no doubt seem peculiar, and I have no idea whether it's de rigeur to contact you, but Dihydrogen Monoxide linked, in my RfA, to a conversation you two had where you seemed ticked that your assessment of people as not experienced enough was getting you accused of 'editcountitis'. So, while it might not be the thing to do, I wanted to explain why I think they reacted that way in my case, with arguments under your oppose and comments in my support saying you don't know what you're talking about.
The first issue was, in my statement, I specifically said that my edit count was low, and explained why, linking to a page where I had most recently made about 30 edits and added 6 cites, in one technical 'edit'. If you wanted people to know that you had paid attention to my editing style, and still felt that though I amy prone to big editing you still considered it one edit, you should have said something about that.
Second, though I don't believe you're using a template, I have found at least two other RfAs that you opposed with the exact same sentence, word for word, down to that trailing '...yet'.
Finally, as was also pointed out to you, 'experience' is a very vague term, when no admin on Wikipedia can (or indeed, should) do everything. Admin candidates (especially those who fail their nom), NEED to know what to do to please people. Even if I pass this nom, which seems likely, I'd still appreciate knowing even one thing that needs improving. I'll *always* appreciate knowing one thing that needs improving.
So, should you want to avoid editcountitis accusations in the future, first, don't cut and paste the same quote (even if you're not pasting :-) ). When you do edit articles, you've no doubt rewritten a thing or two that you found on another page, to avoid infringement ;-). I'd recommend that though you're often giving the same basic reason, treat your opposes the same way, and take a few seconds to not infringe yourself. Second, even if you're pressed for time, make it a point to say something that indicates you have looked at the candidate's edit history, instead of just the edit count. Use a pronoun :-). A simple statement (say, in my case, of 'She's done good work recently with the Next Iron Chef candidates, but...') can go a long way to avoiding people's assumptions, and in my case at least, you wouldn't even need to go off the first page of my edit history.
As for the pressed for time thing, the RfA is open for a week. There is no need to jump in 90m after a nom is open to the public and support or oppose so quickly. Taking a little time, even if you make up your mind in 30s, so you can be sure your decision is right and people won't make assumptions due to your speed, is something else that might help avoid the outcry. I'm not a decision that needs to be made that quickly, but the swiftness with which you oppose causes people to think you're not truly looking at the candidates' history (I know you've encountered this before, with snark about 'oh, really. You looked over all 3000 entries this morning?' commentia).
I don't mind the oppose or anything; I knew I'd get some, and in fact am surprised its been limited to just two so far. I believe that you opposed in good faith, and I have no problems with it. I just know that you seem like you've been frustrated in the past by the editcountitis accusations, so I thought I'd offer this advice (that turned into an essay!) so you can avoid it in the future, even when/if you're just opposing on a gut instinct that the RfA nominee 'needs more experience' ;-) --Thespian 10:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I have replied to DHMO on Thespian's RfA. Please note that this is nothing personal. We are just discussing. :) - TwoOars (Rev) 10:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I would honestly give anyone who asked my true thoughts on the whole topic of what I mean by "experience" or lack thereof when it comes to RFAs, but I honestly don't see many (if any) people doing much more than scoffing or rolling their proverbial eyes at my answer(s). Far too many people put a set threshold of edits for a "support" in and Rfa at 2,000 or 2,5000 or 3,000 etc. I honestly think that to be too low myself... ah, the edicountitis shines through right? I've seen people bang out 1,100 edits in one day; doesn't mean I would want them to have the extra tools after a month of editing with 30,000+ edits. I do honestly hold this project dear, and I do not use an oppose template, nor anything of the sort. I'm caught flak for simply opposing someone's Rfa simply because they have 2,000 edits... a valid reason in my honest opinion. I could write prose, be poetic like some attempt to be, or even give detailed advice on how I think one could improve. Yet it always seems to come back and bite me in the ass. Do I think you're going to run amok and block tons of people, delete randomly, and unblock socks? No, I doubt that would happen. Do I have confidence in your abilities as an editor? I suppose; nothing to rise my concern. But do I trust that you will know what to do in certain situations only admins deal with? No, I cannot judge that upon your experience I see. Do I view this whole discussion as an attack or a personal issue? Hell no... it takes a lot for me to take offense at stuff, especially in terms of Wikipedia. I'm open to discussion, as I have had this issue come to my talk page before. Jmlk17 10:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well said Jmlk. I for one have never "rolled my eyes" at your opposes. If anything since I became an admin I've toughened up regarding experience when it comes to commenting at RFA - from the outside it looks oh so easy, but when you actually start working with the tools it requires a lot finer touch than perhaps non-admins can realise. Experience may or may not be shown via edit count, but experience is certainly vital to do the job well and impartially. Pedro : Chat 10:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the support Pedro! :) Jmlk17 10:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- "I could write prose, be poetic like some attempt to be," Hey! I resemble that remark! ArielVerbosity™ is a hard habit to break, lol. Ariel♥Gold 10:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the support Pedro! :) Jmlk17 10:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well said Jmlk. I for one have never "rolled my eyes" at your opposes. If anything since I became an admin I've toughened up regarding experience when it comes to commenting at RFA - from the outside it looks oh so easy, but when you actually start working with the tools it requires a lot finer touch than perhaps non-admins can realise. Experience may or may not be shown via edit count, but experience is certainly vital to do the job well and impartially. Pedro : Chat 10:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I would honestly give anyone who asked my true thoughts on the whole topic of what I mean by "experience" or lack thereof when it comes to RFAs, but I honestly don't see many (if any) people doing much more than scoffing or rolling their proverbial eyes at my answer(s). Far too many people put a set threshold of edits for a "support" in and Rfa at 2,000 or 2,5000 or 3,000 etc. I honestly think that to be too low myself... ah, the edicountitis shines through right? I've seen people bang out 1,100 edits in one day; doesn't mean I would want them to have the extra tools after a month of editing with 30,000+ edits. I do honestly hold this project dear, and I do not use an oppose template, nor anything of the sort. I'm caught flak for simply opposing someone's Rfa simply because they have 2,000 edits... a valid reason in my honest opinion. I could write prose, be poetic like some attempt to be, or even give detailed advice on how I think one could improve. Yet it always seems to come back and bite me in the ass. Do I think you're going to run amok and block tons of people, delete randomly, and unblock socks? No, I doubt that would happen. Do I have confidence in your abilities as an editor? I suppose; nothing to rise my concern. But do I trust that you will know what to do in certain situations only admins deal with? No, I cannot judge that upon your experience I see. Do I view this whole discussion as an attack or a personal issue? Hell no... it takes a lot for me to take offense at stuff, especially in terms of Wikipedia. I'm open to discussion, as I have had this issue come to my talk page before. Jmlk17 10:28, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, like you say, let us not set a threshold of edits. Let me just ask you this: 1) Do you agree that it might be possible that 2 or 3 excellent edits can demonstrate maturity/knowledge of policy/ability to deal with conflict, but on the other hand, 200 or 300 simple edits may not? Do you agree that quality of edits do matter when you want to determine "experience"? 2) Keeping that in mind, did you go through Thespian's [Special:Contributions] page before you opposed or did you just look at the number 2000 and make the decision? (I'll take your word for it). I am continuing this discussion because you stated that you are open to it. I do not think there is a lack of good faith on your part. Feel free to ignore/delete this if you feel you don't need to answer and we shall consider this conversation finished :) - TwoOars (Rev) 17:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Just to clarify at this point I agree with Jmlk that experience must be demonstrated. I also feel that edit count can go some way towards evidence of experience. However it's only a part. I respect both Twooars and yourself Jmlk as seriously seasoned editors. Pedro : Chat 19:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Pedro. :) I have no doubt that jmlk17 is too. But yes, all I am saying is not to base decisions just on edit count. As you surely know, a look at Special:Contributions reveals so much more, many a times completely surprising us (in a good way or a bad way). - TwoOars (Rev) 20:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Just to clarify at this point I agree with Jmlk that experience must be demonstrated. I also feel that edit count can go some way towards evidence of experience. However it's only a part. I respect both Twooars and yourself Jmlk as seriously seasoned editors. Pedro : Chat 19:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
(outdent, for a different tangent) Am I correct in concluding, then, that do in fact first look at the edit count, and conclude that 2000 edits or 3000 edits will not tell you what you need to know, and vote against someone because of that belief? That does sound like what I'm hearing at this point, but things diverged up there. --Thespian 20:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose that could be to a point... but I have voted for editors with less than 3,000 edits before. :) I just honestly don't think I could tell from what I see. :) Jmlk17 23:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for coming by my Rfa and giving your opinion, even though you opposed:) It was a help. Pedro's oppose was very helpful, and I am going to follow it. He made some very good points. Even though I still have a chance, I am probably going to pull out latter today. I would like to adress the issues brought up in this Rfa before getting the tools. Have a nice day:)--SJP 10:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Very best of luck! :) Jmlk17 10:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo DS homebrew protection
Requesting downgrade of protection to Semi-Protected on the Nintendo DS homebrew page. Original complaint was against anon users adding links so I think we'd be better served by allowing edits by valid users. Thanks, SpikeZOM 14:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Please request at RFPP...thanks! :) Jmlk17 23:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
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I have never edited a wikipedia post, but I have this error message:
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Tanya Chalkin. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Jmlk17 18:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Tanya Chalkin, you will be blocked from editing. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Jmlk17 18:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I never edited her page. Do I have a virus?
- No. You probably are using a dynamic IP address, and someone else has been on it. Jmlk17 16:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
My Rfa
Thanks for voting in my Rfa, which I withdrew from yesterday. Though I did not get promoted, I see this Rfa as being a success nonetheless. What I got out of this Rfa will help me to be a better, all around editor. Because of this Rfa I have decided to become better in other areas of editing. I'm not going to just be a vandalfighter. Though vandalfighting is good, being active in all areas of editing is even better. Have a nice day.--SJP 22:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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My recent RfA
Thank you for participating in my recent RfA. Although the voting ended at 36/22/5, there was no consensus to promote, and the RfA was unsuccessful. I would like the thank you nonetheless for supporting me during the RfA, and hope that any future RfA’s proceed better than this one did. Again, I thank you for your support. ≈ The Haunted Angel Review Me! 02:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your support
Thanks for your support with respect to my request for adminship, which successfully closed today with a count of 47 support, 1 oppose. If you ever see me doing anything that makes you less than pleased that you supported my request, I hope to hear about it from you. See you around Wikipedia! Accounting4Taste 05:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, can you please restore the deleted content? It had been long stable through many editors until this editor's recent repeated deletions. I'm concerned that with it removed the other editor, who has as of yet made any talk page dialog, will be reluctant to take part in any meaningful discussion. They are disputing (apparently) the notability of that content's inclusion (I may be misinterpreting that). Thank you. Benjiboi 23:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Please head on over to RFPP and request unprotection. Jmlk17 10:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I asked the same at RFPP but no one's touched it. I went ahead and started a talk page section and the other editor has, at least, responded; hopefully it will remain constructive. Benjiboi 14:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks!
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Thanks for participating in my request for adminship, which ended with 56 supports, one oppose, and one neutral. I hope to accomplish beyond what is expected of me and work to help those that lent me their trust. east.718 at 02:30, 11/4/2007 |
- Very welcome. Good luck! :) Jmlk17 10:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
218.186.9.3
Hi Jmlk17. I noticed you've blocked this IP as a schoolblock[1], whereas this is actually a cache proxy for Singapore's largest ISP, StarHub. It is a very shared IP, and generates an enormous number of complaints and unblock requests when it is blocked. I just thought you would like to know. Perhaps you would consider reducing the block or at least allow account creation. See User_talk:218.186.8.10 or [2]. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh man... very much my bad! Thanks for bringing it to my attention! :) Jmlk17 07:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a new administrator!
- Congrats, and good luck! Jmlk17 07:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
To My Admin Coach
Well, I've been going around and giving everyone a nice message on their talk pages with the blue RfA template, but I just don't think that's going to work with you. I feel like you should get a slightly funnier one:
Thanks for everything, man, I really appreciate it. Let's go out and whack some damn vandals!! GlassCobra 00:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- You're very welcome! Congrats on the new tools, and have fun! Jmlk17 07:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for supporting me in my recent RFA which unfortunately did not pass at (47/23/5). I will be sure to improve my editing skills and wait till someone nominates me next time. Have a great day(or night)! --Hdt83 Chat 05:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Very welcome... perhaps next time! Jmlk17 07:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Removed bad report?
Hi, you've removed my report as "bad" twice now but I have no idea why. Please explain. Benjiboi 10:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sure...sorry about the confusion. The user had only two edits recently, and has stopped since their vandalism. Many admins (myself included), are iffy about blocking someone who is inactive at the time. Jmlk17 10:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Huh? This user has made nearly 30 edits over the last 6 weeks with all but one article edit reverted as vandalism. They have been dialoged with and warned and now are back doing the same gender vandalism they were engaged in last time. They were given a final warning and then re-did the exact same vandalism again. It's incredibly frustrating to deal with anon vandals when not given more admin support. I fully expect this user to resurface on other transgender articles to again play gender pronoun games and would like to have them know that vandalism is not acceptable and warnings are serious. Benjiboi 10:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Good point actually. What is the IP again? Jmlk17 10:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/70.176.144.149, thanks for your time on this. Benjiboi 11:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- No problem, always glad to help. 3 day block instituted... will be more if/when they do return. :) Jmlk17 11:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/70.176.144.149, thanks for your time on this. Benjiboi 11:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Good point actually. What is the IP again? Jmlk17 10:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Huh? This user has made nearly 30 edits over the last 6 weeks with all but one article edit reverted as vandalism. They have been dialoged with and warned and now are back doing the same gender vandalism they were engaged in last time. They were given a final warning and then re-did the exact same vandalism again. It's incredibly frustrating to deal with anon vandals when not given more admin support. I fully expect this user to resurface on other transgender articles to again play gender pronoun games and would like to have them know that vandalism is not acceptable and warnings are serious. Benjiboi 10:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Henrik's RfA thanks!
Thanks for supporting my RfA, it closed today with a final tally of 39 supports, 1 oppose and 1 neutral. As always, if you ever see me doing anything which would cause you to regret giving me your support, let me know. henrik•talk 18:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you bunches!
Thank you so much for suppporting my RfA. I was promoted with a total of (44/1/0) - a vote of confidence from the community that I find humbling and motivating. I will not abuse your trust. Look forward to working with you! (Esprit15d 21:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)) |