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On 29 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from La Presse (Canadian newspaper) to La Presse. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Original La Presse
editThere remains a need for an article on the first daily newspaper "La Presse" published in Paris beginning in 1836 - and a disambiguation page to distinguish the two.
- I think that the Montreal-based La Presse should be primary topic... Montreal is an English and French city, so usage in English would be mostly this paper.
- Given the French La Presse went bankrupt in 1927, the focus should remain on the Montréal newspaper Lexers615 (talk) 12:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Assessment
editI have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub (although it requires more referencing and in-line citations), and of low importance, as it a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 15:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:LaPressePage.jpg
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Cyberpresse webpage
editI'm wondering whether the external link should be http://www.cyberpresse.ca/, which actually covers all Gesca newspapers in Quebec, or http://www.cyberpresse.ca/section/CPPRESSE, the La Presse section of the website. Or should we keep the link as is and rename it as Cyberpresse instead of the somewhat misleading "official website"? Any opinions?--Boffob (talk) 18:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was no move. No evidence provided to support proposal. JPG-GR (talk) 18:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
La Presse (Canada) → La Presse — This is a major newspaper in a major city with a large English population, and is referred to by English press from the rest of Canada. It is primary usage. — 70.51.10.188 (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Support The above rationale is insufficient because it fails to address the claim of the French newspaper. For example, Le Monde, the French newspaper correctly gets primary topic over Le Monde (song) which appears to come from an English-speaking region. In this case however, La Presse has had about 5 times fewer hits. [1] vs. [2]. --Rogerb67 (talk) 20:05, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Any additional comments:
Is the French newspaper even in circulation? The article mentions in the "External links" there are digital archives from 1836 to 1906, but the article is ambiguous about whether this newspaper is still published. If the newspaper has been out of circulation for over 100 years, the Quebec newspaper is more convincingly the main article. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 13:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect the date approximately 100 years ago has more to do with expiry of the copyright in France than any end of publication; the archive now appears to go up to 1910. However, whether it has gone out of print in the intervening 98 years is an open question; applying my limited knowledge of French to the French Wikipedia article didn't help either. Whether the paper is still in print possibly has some bearing on which is the primary article, but it certainly doesn't determine the case. --Rogerb67 (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- I just noticed a header on the archive La Presse (Paris. 1836). 1836-1952.; possibly a final publication date? As noted above, this does not cause any presumption against the newspaper in France; discontinued publications can still be more well-known than current ones. --Rogerb67 (talk) 21:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Actually, and according to the French Wikipedia, the French newspaper bearing the same name went bankrupt in 1927 after a scandal for publishing false news... Lexers615 (talk) 12:51, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
L'Express
editLa Presse appears to have ties to the French newspaper L'Express, given that it often runs articles from the newspaper, although it would be best to find accurate sources about this before making such a claim. ADM (talk) 11:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
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Requested move 29 November 2024
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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frost 22:13, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
– Clear pageviews advantage[4], and, being in business for 140 years and counting, long-term notability as well. 162 etc. (talk) 21:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note that this was previously discussed in 2008; see above. 162 etc. (talk) 21:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support based on the pageview analysis provided by the RM, obviously the WP:PTOPIC. I don't see any strong opposition in the 16-year-old RM that stands in the way of this move. Bobby Cohn (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)