Talk:Diana Oughton
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Terrorist
editHow is attempting to plant a nail bomb at a dance for American service members not terorism?
Senator
editThere was a very careless mistake in this article that said that her father was a state senator. Her father was a restaurateur. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 07:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, her father DID serve as a state senator in Illinois. He only became a restauranteur after the closing of the Keeley Institute ~1966. He converted "The Lodge," which was previously used by the Keeley, to a restauarant. He did not run the restaurant himself and leased it to another party. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.73.106.216 (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
FBI Files
editComment: It's helpful to have the external link taking readers to the FBI files for this individual. Would it be possible to repair the link-- it doesn't appear to be working as it should.--Historytrain (talk) 19:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree. I'm not doubting the existence of the citations necessarily, but it kind of defeats the purpose of citations if you can't verify them. Disappointing. Pocket Rockets (talk) 04:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
A more encyclopedic tone
editOSSU - Personally, I think this is an outstanding article. Written with considerable care and obviously well researched, I applaud your hard work. While it reads with ease and a nice flow, I think some would say that it needs more of an encyclopedic tone. For example: in the Townhouse explosion section, you paint a very realistic picture of the scene, but in an emotional sense more than a factual one. Consider going through the article and see where is should focus on the facts rather than descriptions.
Also, it does not appear that you have any citations in the "peanut" or opening paragraph? 69.19.14.28 (talk) 07:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)OSSU
Citations
editI'm putting a tag on this article because of the style of citations. They are not in accordance with wikipedia styly. Something like "Time Magazine" is not a sufficient citation at all. Murderbike 22:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I had kept the Time magazine citation and reference because it was part of the original entry for Diana Oughton, it has now been changed.Crmforclass 05:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Links
editAre you certain about the term VISA? (Your link did not seem to have any connection to information.) I was around in the sixties and I only remember VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America). 68.127.169.130 (talk) 02:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC) Cid Young, San Francisco, CA
VISA (Voluntary International Service Assignment) was a program of the American Friends Service Committee -- not a US government program & not a typo for VISTA (anyway VISTA was domestic.) Here is one of several references to the progam: [http://www.afsc.org/ht/d/sp/i/15882/pid/15882 AFSC timeline --Wikikd (talk) 08:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
the link to the Weather Underground Organization (Weatherman (organization) in the opening paragraph is not working. I tried to change it but the whole think looks correct and now matter how many spaces I add or take out, the link still does not work! Please help!
- It actually didn't need to be linked since it's linked about three sentences before that. Murderbike (talk) 03:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- I just tried it again, the very first reference to the Weathermen in the opening sentence, and the link doesn't work. I click on the one that is linked, but it doesn't take me to the proper site.--Lalalajane (talk) 00:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed, sorry about that. Murderbike (talk) 00:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- think we fixed it at the same time... haha--Lalalajane (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed, sorry about that. Murderbike (talk) 00:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- I just tried it again, the very first reference to the Weathermen in the opening sentence, and the link doesn't work. I click on the one that is linked, but it doesn't take me to the proper site.--Lalalajane (talk) 00:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Reference to Indians -- Guatemala Section
editIt should be noted that the reference to "Indians" should be clarified as indigenous people or North American Indians.
User: ChrisTi, April 21, 2008
Tragic?
editThe Townhouse Explosion was the tragic and dramatic culmination of the grim political direction in which Weatherman had been headed.
Why was the explosion "tragic"? They were killed in the midst of illegally fabricating devices to murder others. If anything, it was karmic. Shawn D. (talk) 17:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Copyrighted Material?
editIn quoting two stanzas/verses from the lyrics of a song within the "Diana After Death" section, does a violation of copyright occur?--Historytrain (talk) 23:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I will research the possible copyright infringement.Elizabethgaye22 (talk) 22:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks-- I realize you may not have been the original post-er of this material, but we all work together to make sure the entries are as sound as possible.--Historytrain (talk) 01:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Guatamala
editIn the second and third paragraphs, there are sentences which need citations. (Sherlockhemlock (talk) 15:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC) Can you be more specific of which sentences you are referring to?Elizabethgaye22 (talk) 01:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Here are a couple: "Oughton was assigned to Chichicastenango, at that time an isolated Indian market town. Oughton came to Guatemala as a liberal, believing that the problems could be identified and solutions devised and carried out." It's my understanding that ideally, citations should follow after each sentence that can be referenced to a source. The second sentence above, for example, refers to Oughton's beliefs and should be referenced. (Sherlockhemlock (talk) 08:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC))
Here are others: "During this time, the questions that she'd struggled with came to a head. Oughton questioned what to do about poverty, social injustice, and revolution in the world." (Sherlockhemlock (talk) 08:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC))
I have reviewed and edited citations.Elizabethgaye22 (talk) 21:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't have a citation problem for this section, but, it does seem very poorly written and kind of mixed up. It's like the sentences are out of order in some parts. Phlox1301 (talk) 10:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Phlox1301
- This is the end product of at least one instructor's annual freshmen assignment of applying a fresh coat of whitewash to Weatherman articles. Collective writing never turns out well. Feel free to improve it, but there's a new class coming this fall. --CliffC (talk) 12:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Ending
editGrageo (talk) 21:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Maybe at the end you can also say that at the beginning of praire fire they dedicated the book to her and i have some other sources that dedicate their work to Diana Oughton if you want but it sounds pretty good.
Any pictures of her body?
editI've read in several articles that her body was burnt, disfigured, dismembered, and that her shit was generally all fucked up. In cases like this you can usually find "death photos" pretty easily, but I've had no luck finding any on the web. Does anyone know where I can see her corpse? I'm morbidly fascinated by the descriptions and want to see for myself. Childe Roland of Gilead (talk) 15:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
No, I did not see any photos.Elizabethgaye22 (talk) 01:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
What a charming way to put it.... But I'll, belatedly, answer your question. Oughton was basically in contact with a fairly powerful bomb that went off in an enclosed space. So yes, she was badly mangled. A recent book on the terrorist groups of the '70s describes her remains as also being "riddled" with nails from the bomb she was working on. The police are almost certain to have taken a number of photos of her body both at the scene and at the morgue during the post mortem examination. These most likely still exist in the police files on the investigation. But this sort of thing is not normally released for public consumption. 13:08 August 2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.39.64.38 (talk) 18:09, 7 August 2015 (UTC)