User talk:Deepfriedokra

• If anyone claims to be my "doppelganger" or "clone," please block on sight
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• Any admin should feel free to undo an admin action of mine without prior discussion. A ping would be nice. I unblock high-risk appellants. Sometimes it does not work out. It would not be wheel-warring to reblock the recidivistic among them.

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For reasons I cannot go into, my talk page may be protected from time to time. If you wish a page I deleted restored, and you cannot edit here , please make a request at WP:DELETION REVIEW. I apologize for the inconvenience .. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to know how to get a wiki page on myself, would you know how to do this? Mentallyhyp (talk) 00:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mentallyhyp:. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place to write about oneself. Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must meet inclusion requirements with reliable sources which are unconnected with the subject and which provide verifiable information. Someone unconnected with the subject needs to have written a great deal about the subject. Thanks, -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Bishonen | tålk 09:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'm curious as to your thoughts about the benefits of an administrator defending themselves in an ArbCom case. Marine 69-71 is the latest case, but far from singular. I'm not focusing on Marine 69-71 here. I don't see what benefit defending yourself brings. In essence, there are three options when an admin is brought before ArbCom:

1. Ignore the case request. Result: get desysopped.
2. Acknowledge the case, but don't defend yourself. Result: get desysopped
3. Contribute to the case, defending yourself. Result: get desysopped

All three options result in desysopping, as history shows. Since getting desysopped is a foregone conclusion, the best possible way of managing such a situation is ignoring the case request as this results in the least amount of time spent on the pointless endeavour. Your thoughts? --Hammersoft (talk) 13:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Acknowledge the concerns of the community. When those concerns are ill-founded, make the necessary explanations, clarifications, and corrections. When those concerns are well-founded, own the concerning behavior and make convincing assurances that the behavior will not be repeated. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:33, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...which will result in them be desysopped. So, why bother making the effort and time expenditure? --Hammersoft (talk) 18:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not at all true but whatever you want to think, think. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not what I want to think. I'd rather there be fair, equitable outcomes for all parties at ArbCom. But, that's not remotely the case with ArbCom. In this general category of case, I've had one (at M6971's talk page) case be made known to me that resulted in something other than desysopping. That's 1, against lord knows how many that resulted in desysopping. It's just reality. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Those who seek power are not worthy of that power." - Plato. Or to be more modern about it, desysopping follows the same logic as blocking: delivered not as retribution, but to protect the project and other users from disruption and inappropriate conduct, and to deter any future possible repetitions of inappropriate conduct. Being desysopped is only a "punishment" to those who view it as such. Sirocco745 (talk) 07:16, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sirocco745: good comparison. The advice I offer above is much like User:Deepfriedokra/dna. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the Marine arbcom case request is bad, you should see THIS -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was poking through the drama board when I noticed that second ANI thread first appear. That single admin recall request has 86 editors, 105 watchers, and about 8000 pageviews. If there's one thing you don't want doing numbers, it's the "this guy did a dumb" page, which is why I plan to keep my stupidity off-wiki! People forget, but the internet doesn't. Sirocco745 (talk) 07:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are wise -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you hard deleted one of that IP's talk page replies. I'm morbidly curious, on a scale of one to ten (or eleven), how bad was it? Sirocco745 (talk) 07:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sirocco745: if you like, can restore it. I don't talk like that. 😜 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welp, I am somehow not surprised. Thank you for hard deleting it then! Sirocco745 (talk) 07:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No? Really? Oh yes it does. JBW (talk) 22:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

enough's enough already. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Long time since I've talked to ya! It's been a rough season, that's for sure.

Watch out for Rafael now, though. Take precautions now if necessary. ~ Tails Wx 19:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank God the storm's not headed to the Carolinas. It was already a catastrophe when Helene hit us. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 19:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for quickly deleting Charlee.Mitschke. I can't understand why this remained unspotted here for more than four years. Thanks to some random IP that marked a picture they'd uploaded for speedy deletion. 4 years is a huge time. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 16:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aafi: sometimes it takes a while for us to notice stuff like that. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

old bad boys, you know. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 16:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deepfriedokra, should I transfer this image to Commons or keep local with Template:Userspace file? Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 21:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bold 2.51.11.94 (talk) 22:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Myrealnamm: it's out of scope for commons. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:12, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They've been blocked. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Emir of Wikipedia: shocked -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:33, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Emir of Wikipedia Wonder why they even wrote BOLD there. Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 23:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can get some strange vandalism and trolling on Wikipedia. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." --Hunter S. Thompson -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you watch this talk page, you will see things that cannot be unseen. Or forgotten. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 20:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Something in your "please reconsider your spam, dearest newbie" AfC draft comment template is breaking the AfC template when you use AFCH. Or are you doing this manually? It's leaving the AfC comment properly, but it removes the draft submission template for some reason. Eg: [1]. -- asilvering (talk) 20:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Asilvering: argh thanks. bang goes that idea -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon, you use templates when you make AFCH comments pretty frequently, and it doesn't break anything. Any ideas what's going wrong here? -- asilvering (talk) 20:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Probably something to do with my on-screen keyboard. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:asilvering, User:Deepfriedokra - I can see that the template that is mentioned here is more complex than any of my templates. I will take a look in a few hours, but I need to swim first. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In looking at the history of the draft, I see that the draft submission template simply isn't there after the message template is added. That is, the draft submission template is not being broken or interfered with but actually removed. The complex template may be beyond my level of skill, but I will take a look at it. What is the name of the template? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I copypasted in text from User:Deepfriedokra/del and trimmed as needed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 08:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra, I think I may have just figured this out by accident, typoing something else in an AFCH comment - if you don't properly close the template with }}, the AFCH script behaves... mysteriously. -- asilvering (talk) 04:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Seen you around a lot. You do good work with cleaning up spam and managing unblocks. Maybe you can give me some advice on the latter someday? Anyway, I felt like you deserve this :) Fathoms Below (talk) 20:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fathoms Below: Thank you muchly. I mostly just fix broken ones these days. @331dot: is the exemplar for CAT:UNBLOCK. User:Deepfriedokra/dna sums up what I require but so seldom see in unblock requests. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 00:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the UTRS is not working. It seems like newer requests are answered but older requests are abandoned and not reviewed, including my request. I have waited for three months and tried other methods like emailing wikimedia stewards or chatting via irc unblock channel but those methods aren't replied, either. A wikimedia steward tells me to send a direct message here. Please don't consider this message as block evasion because there is seemingly no other way to contact an administrator on English Wikipedia. 113.190.54.159 (talk) 09:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look. What is your username? -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:11, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My username is Albertpda. 113.190.54.159 (talk) 10:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(cringe) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: I will be happy to carry this over. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:29, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS appeal #94970 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:31, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously no objections from me for you carrying the request over to the noticeboard. :) --Yamla (talk) 11:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

very well -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:19, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have written a reply to Compassionate727 who commented on my appeal in the noticeboard and the reply is in the UTRS. Can you carried it over? 14.177.235.174 (talk) 02:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still cannot edit my user talk page. I also forgot to ping Compassionate727 in my reply in the noticeboard, can you do that? 116.96.45.68 (talk) 02:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I saw the thank you for warning that IP for logged out editing. Do you think you could look at the draft I tagged under G11? I don't trust the IP not to remove the template again before another admin gets to see it. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TornadoLGS: Sorry, brain dead and going to bed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like another admin deleted it. All good. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seraphimblade did the deed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 03:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am contacting you about this user above, given your very helpful updates on their talk page. I was considering contacting the admin who globally locked them about this, but given that she has stated she is busy during the week, I figured I'd bring it here. Do you think that, with the user achieving unblock, they should be globally unlocked? I typically try to stay out of administratively-oriented processes like this, but considering that I have been looking forward to the prospect of them returning after a standard offer period (see my comments from April on their talk page), I did want to reach out about this because of the unblock. JeffSpaceman (talk) 13:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JeffSpaceman: Taken care of. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thanks for your spam clean up. Maliner (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

my pleasure. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:29, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, a huge thanks for unblocking me, I hope to show my capacity for constructive editing.

As a consequence of my earlier behavior, I have local (@enwiki) and global hard (include login, no email, no talkpage access). Should I file a request via UTRS for the IPBE flags (there's a chance I'll be locked out for a couple of days)? I get you're not a checkuser, though I'm not sure where to ask. 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 15:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• AmandaNP, Primefac, Yamla, perhaps you can help. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JayCubby:, it looks like the IP address you are currently on is not blocked. The one you were using earlier is indeed blocked, but it looks like you've moved on and so won't be affected by that block. I don't think there's any further action required here. Note there's nothing I can do about a global block. --Yamla (talk) 17:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The one I'm currently on as I'm writing this (ends in .79) is a-OK. I haven't moved on from the one ending in .10 yet, I just waited until I connected to my secondary network to login lest I have to deal with that. I'll ask at Meta about the global block. Thank you very much! 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 17:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on users talkpage in order to centralize and avoid further double pings. -- Amanda (she/her) 03:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty sure UTRS simply wouldn't function without you. :) Yamla (talk) 10:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I feel the same only more so about you. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have some tasty Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee this morning. :) --Yamla (talk) 12:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jealous -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed you leaving these sometimes - are we supposed to be leaving talk page notices when closing an appeal? If so, uh, oops. -- asilvering (talk) 23:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do it for adminacct. We used to have a bot. Not required. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'tis useful though. I ought to start. Also, are these numbered sequentially? We should throw a party for the lucky one who cracks six digits. -- asilvering (talk) 23:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla: Yes! a 100,000th ticket party! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely on board for a 100,000th ticket party! Also, Asilvering, I default to not leaving notes about declined UTRS requests on talk pages. It's not particularly helpful when someone just found their way to UTRS before they found their talk page, for example. But I'll leave a note when it could be helpful for future context, for future unblock reviews on the talk page. For example, someone was just wasting the time of unblock reviewers on the talk page, lost access to the talk page, then made the same requests on UTRS. Or when they threatened us on UTRS. That sort of thing. --Yamla (talk) 10:47, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please send an invitation.... 331dot (talk) 10:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Faruk seems to be industrious in his marketing 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

😲 -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]