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A tag has been placed on User:AppleBsTime, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do.

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I'll apologise to for this, I mis-read this as a page instead of a user-page, I'm not trying to scare you off, sorry Yorkshiresoul (talk) 13:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (I reported this, and I misread it as being a page when in fact it is a user page, my apologies) --Yorkshiresoul (talk) 13:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, are you going to remove the tag, or do we now sit through the process of a speedy deletion debate? -- AppleBsTime (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that as I have challenged my own referral, nothing further will happen, except that I look a bit of a berk Yorkshiresoul (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Do you work for IGN, by any chance? -- AppleBsTime (talk) 13:37, 1 October 2012 (UTC)"

No, I do not work for IGN. I'd like to guess that you thought I do because I seem to use most citations and refs related to IGN. That's just because I surf that site a lot and find most of my refs from there. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 15:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Back in 2006, I was just beginning to edit Wikipedia, and was actually not aware of the fact taht there were guidelines on how to edit. I learned that soon enough, and eventually became quite an expert on both, editing and guidelines. Now, in the actual case of Lecuona's birthdate, you'll see that there is a discrepancy between the lede and the opening paragraph, one stating August 6, the other August 7. To check which one would be correct, I checked the Spanish Wikipedia and got this. August 6, 1895, is still there, to date. Two of the sources are broken links now ( I can't remember what they said at the time), the third does not state a birthdate. However, in the Spanish Wikipedia, nobody ever challenged the date. I suggest you change it there, and add a source. I'm sorry if I made a mistake, but it's never too late to correct it. Cheers! Kraxler (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This source (the first external link in the article) says "Ernesto Lecuona was born in Guanabacoa, Cuba, across the bay from Havana, on August 6, 1895, but for an unexplained reason he actually observed his birthday as August 7, 1896." which looks rather weird. One should try to find out what exactly that means. Kraxler (talk) 21:35, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This obituary says he was 68, which places his birth in 1895. Kraxler (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is from a book published in 2003. Kraxler (talk) 21:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another source, his grave marker, gives the birthdate 07 August 1896. This is all very strange, and I do appreciate your responding! - AppleBsTime (talk) 01:23, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You are welcome! I think that's a much better, less-confrontational name. - AppleBsTime (talk) 20:49, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, again thank you! xinbenlv ^{Talk, Remember to "ping" me} 01:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An article you recently created, Cornelis Giles, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 18:39, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@John B123: Happy to try to find some good sources -- I'm becoming an expert at that, it seems. The same article is in the French Wikipedia's mainspace -- do you plan to take action there, as well? The Netherlands Wikipedia version does have some additional sources, which I'll include here in English. AppleBsTime (talk) 19:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I don't get involved in the fr wiki, not least because my written French is poor. Different language versions of the wiki all have their own rules, so what is acceptable on one may not be on another. Hope all goes well with adding the references. Regards --John B123 (talk) 19:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@John B123: I was able to locate and use four different sources to enhance the article. I submitted to a review, but now see that there is up to a 2-month delay? That seems rather punishing for an article about a centuries-old navigator that can't possibly harm the Wikipedia corpus. - AppleBsTime (talk) 20:22, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Whilst it's not an ideal situation, the AfC reviewers, who are all volunteers, are currently overwhelmed with submissions. --John B123 (talk) 20:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AppleBsTime, you do have an alternative path forward here. The AfC process is entirely volutury and you are absolutely not required to use it. If you feel confident enough that the draft has now been sufficiently improved to be ready for mainspace, you can simply move the page there yourself, using the "move" button at the top of the page. You'd need to edit the draft to remove the AfC tag first. Draftification of new articles, of the kind that John B123 performed here, is allowed as a part of New Page Patrol, but the process is reversible and it also can be contested. I do recommend that if you move the page to mainspace without it going through AfC, you add to the move summary something like "The page has been sufficiently improved for moving to mainspace; if there are still concerns regarding notability, please list the article for AfD". Of course, if you prefer, you could also wait 2-3 months for the AfC process to work itself through. Nsk92 (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: A long overdue 'thank you' for approving that submission of mine. I hope I didn't come across as too impatient on the process (see directly above). AppleBsTime (talk) 01:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

it's we who should need to apologize. I am very much aware that the process is slow and unpredictable, but it used to be even worse-- it is much faster than it was 2 years ago. DGG ( talk ) 06:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: Maybe I should consider volunteering for the AfC team that reviews and approves (or rejects with recommendations) all of the backlogged content! - AppleBsTime (talk) 20:09, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks, Bot. I've amended the edit. - AppleBsTime (talk) 17:38, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you not see my edit summary? A little patience would be helpful. - AppleBsTime (talk) 21:41, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with moving back into article space, well done to you both for updating. You did a copy and paste move which isn't ideal as the history is lost. Ideally I'd think it would be best to move to the Draft back? Glen (talk) 15:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah all good see you're onto it. Glen (talk) 15:21, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I definitely botched that -- this was my first "draftify, then rather quickly un-draftify" experience. I placed a request to merge History on the article, though -- hopefully someone smarter than me will accommodate that fix? - AppleBsTime (talk) 15:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AppleBsTime, no issues. I have to admit it's not something I've done before either! I'm on mobile at the moment so will take a look when back on PC if another admin hasn't beaten me to it. Thanks again. Glen (talk) 15:25, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this is "wrong thinking" or not, but it feels to me that experienced editors should generally avoid the WP:AFC process altogether, except to volunteer as reviewers of the work of less-experienced users. The backlog is long enough, without adding more serviceable articles to the mix. I wish the Draftify tool had an ability for the experienced user to choose whether or not to suggest AFC to the original author. - AppleBsTime (talk) 15:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Need any help msg me. Thnx. Cudderizbak (talk) 04:26, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you participated on Wikipedia for one day. We'll have to make progress without your help, it seems. - AppleBsTime (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This newbie disruptor Aleviquizilbash doesn't know when to stop. Wbiases (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I fixed that. Thank you, DPL bot. - AppleBsTime (talk) 12:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You're welcome -- I have responded. - AppleBsTime (talk) 17:00, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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To expand upon this, a reliable source (Private Eye (magazine)) has made an allegation about you which seems to center on metadata which was present on the files you uploaded to https://ufile.io/f/9zbwn. Unfortunately those files are now only available with a subscription, so I can't check whether the allegations are true. To avoid any chance of WP:OUTING, I won't repeat what was published, but I will email you a copy and request that you respond one way or the other as to whether you have a conflict of interest with respects to GISAID and if the answer is no, please explain how you obtained the documents. Thank you SmartSE (talk) 13:42, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking into this further I see that you stated here Nobody knows who posted the documents but everyone can see when each file was uploaded e.g. File created: 02/03/2023, 18:44:48, coincidentally(!) just three hours before you first linked to them. SmartSE (talk) 14:30, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And here back in December 2021, you introduced the unsourced claim into the article that GISAID was the first to publish the COVID-19 genome, which Science reports is being pushed by GISAID but is considered by others as rewriting history. SmartSE (talk) 15:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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