User talk:MPGuy2824
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I recently moved my draft about Muhammad Kamalud-Deen Al-Adaby to the main article space. However, when i search for it on my browser it's display there was a problem displaying this page --Rayinde11 (talk) 10:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Rayinde11: Where are you searching for it? On Wikipedia? I can see it in these results. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response! I've confirmed that the article exists on Wikipedia, but when I searched for it in my web browser, it doesn't show up yet. Rayinde11 (talk) 10:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, got it. That requires indexing by search engines, which is only done after the article is patrolled. New pages patrol has a backlog of over 10,000 articles right now, but a reviewer will get to it eventually. Meanwhile you can improve on the article OR work on other things within Wikipedia (e.g. Wikipedia:Task Center). Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification! I'll keep making improvements to the article while I wait for it to be patrolled. I'll also look into other tasks on Wikipedia in the meantime. Appreciate the advice. Rayinde11 (talk) 15:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi MPGuy2824! Thanks for the advice. I noticed that the article still isn’t appearing in search engine results, even though it shows up within Wikipedia’s search. Rayinde11 (talk) 05:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rayinde11, it will take some time. It's hard to find reviewers who know the subject. Meanwhile, our backlog has increased to 11,000 articles. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- okay what do you suggest i do Rayinde11 (talk) 09:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rayinde11, it will take some time. It's hard to find reviewers who know the subject. Meanwhile, our backlog has increased to 11,000 articles. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, got it. That requires indexing by search engines, which is only done after the article is patrolled. New pages patrol has a backlog of over 10,000 articles right now, but a reviewer will get to it eventually. Meanwhile you can improve on the article OR work on other things within Wikipedia (e.g. Wikipedia:Task Center). Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response! I've confirmed that the article exists on Wikipedia, but when I searched for it in my web browser, it doesn't show up yet. Rayinde11 (talk) 10:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Leader of the Opposition (Japan)
[edit]Hi,
I've declined your G4 speedy request on Leader of the Opposition (Japan), and just wanted to pop by to explain why.
I looked at the old article which was deleted following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leader of the Opposition (Japan), and this version has much more main body content and sources, so it's not merely a case of recreation of the deleted version. I think it potentially also makes a better case for notability. Also, at least one of the articles on the past holders of this post use the term LOTO, so it's possible it's an actual thing. I say only 'possible', because the comments in that AfD seemed to suggest this could be just a generic term and not an actual position. Anyway, that AfD had minimal participation (only one !vote), so I didn't think that necessarily represented community consensus; in other words, I'm treating that outcome as a 'soft delete' rather than a binding precedent.
Hope that's okay. Give me a shout if you disagree violently. :)
Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. You are able to compare the current article with the deleted version and so can take a more informed decision. Congrats on the mop, btw.
disagree violently
Ha!- Happy editing and admining. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Taxonomy template references
[edit]Please add a reference when creating taxonomy templates. I have added one here, for example. Thanks. YorkshireExpat (talk) 07:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, I assume that most taxons will be available on CoL (except maybe a very newly defined one). If it isn't available there then what other places do you look for such a ref? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Some people have strong feelings about what to use. Most things in the taxonbar are ok I feel. A dodgy reference is better than none. YorkshireExpat (talk) 15:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Winterkönig Hannover (07:26, 11 November 2024)
[edit]Where can I find my status of my current user group? --Winterkönig Hannover (talk) 07:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Winterkönig Hannover: When I go to my/any user page, there is a link on the left, within a group of links under the heading "Tools". It is called "View user groups". For you it would take you to Special:UserRights/Winterkönig_Hannover where it shows that you are a member of the autoconfirmed group, and no other. Hope this helps! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer. Winterkönig Hannover (talk) 08:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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Question from Dgrilawidbanana on Help:Conditional expressions (20:16, 13 November 2024)
[edit]Hi! I want to make a template, but it involves subtracting one from a number returned by a module. How can I do this? --Dgrilawidbanana (talk) 20:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind, I can use
{{sum|1|1}}
. Dgrilawidbanana (talk) 20:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)- Hehe, the best kind of problem: one that already has a solution by the time I get to it! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- LOL! Thanks for responding anyways, have a great day! Dgrilawidbanana (talk) 05:10, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hehe, the best kind of problem: one that already has a solution by the time I get to it! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Could you review Studies in Machiavellianism?
[edit]Greetings MPGuy2824,
This article was made about 2 months ago, but no one reviewed the article since. I was wondering if you could review it.
Thank you, Plasticwonder (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Plasticwonder, I've not really looked into how to judge the notability of books, so I'm not going to be reviewing that. But, even for someone who reviews book articles regularly, I would say that the lack of online sources mentioned in the article might lead to them skipping over the article. Additionally, we have over 12,000 articles in the backlog right now to review. So, you'll have to be patient. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, and happy editing to you as well. Plasticwonder (talk) 09:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Daniel Obinna ink (21:10, 16 November 2024)
[edit]Hello Sir, How can I find transgender topics --Daniel Obinna ink (talk) 21:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Obinna ink: Welcome to Wikipedia! I think Outline of transgender topics would be a good place to start. If you want to improve any of articles (or others), then I'd suggest that you start and complete WP:TWA. Bye for now! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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Question from Torusfield8 on Kika Thorne (21:56, 19 November 2024)
[edit]Hi there, I have updated the page, and wonder how long the wait usually is? Thanks! --Torusfield8 (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Torusfield8: I'm not seeing any edits by you on that page. It is possible that you didn't click the "Publish" button after making your changes. I've posted a message on your talk page. Go through those links when you find the time, but I'd suggest that you start and complete WP:TWA first. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Tyruscollins (02:19, 21 November 2024)
[edit]How does one check on the status of an article submitted? I helped my friend write a bio/background article for his company, but I haven't figured out how to check status on it. --Tyruscollins (talk) 02:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tyruscollins: What do you mean by status? Meanwhile, you should read WP:COI and see if it applies to you. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Abdihakimslp (08:37, 22 November 2024)
[edit]How do I add a photo to my page --Abdihakimslp (talk) 08:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Abdihakimslp: Welcome to Wikipedia. You'll want to take a look at Help:IMAGESTART. Are you the person described in User:Abdihakimslp/sandbox? If not, are you in any way connected to him. If so, you should take a thorough look at WP:COI. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I am Abdihakimslp (talk) 08:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Just make sure that you follow the steps at WP:DISCLOSE then. Also, don't move your draft to the mainspace directly, but submit it for review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I am Abdihakimslp (talk) 08:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
A Smile for you!
[edit]Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Just wondering: How did I come on your radar? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, just randomly found the template and noticed you reviewed one of my pages as a new page reviewer, so I just wanted to say thanks! Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Cool, I'll be sure to pass it on (i.e. spread the wikilove). Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great, Happy editing to you too! Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Cool, I'll be sure to pass it on (i.e. spread the wikilove). Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, just randomly found the template and noticed you reviewed one of my pages as a new page reviewer, so I just wanted to say thanks! Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Mouli Sharma (2003) (14:37, 22 November 2024)
[edit]Doubts on COI & Primary Sources
In my understanding & experience, an encyclopedia giving secondary sources priority over primary ones makes perfect sense, both in the sense of 'significance' of a subject & neutrality. But when it comes to socio-political phenomenon, especially those in non-western countries, these 'secondary sources' even when available, are a) either not available on the internet or b) not the subject of mainstream news coverage. Blogsites, & print material within personal access are therefore quite crucial sources, & their being dismissed as COI because 'blogs' are not credible makes me hesitate to write about even visible phenomenon such as active protests & movements. Any advice on how to proceed in such cases (articles that rely, if not entirely, significantly on blogsites, social media & drivelinks as sources).
Secondly, I also wonder if preference to secondary sources is concerned more with bypassing organisational bias, such as in government or court documents, rather than personal testimony. Because while I understand why the relative of a subject or a subject themselves should ideally not write their own Wikipedia article or disclose information in said article that they have not disclosed elsewhere, I always regarded this to be a simply solvable problem as to have this person first declare the information somewhere else, & then have it be referenced in Wikipedia. But then they would run into the same problem as I've desrcibed above: WP:COI questions even the author's sources, as if the point is not for the information to be on record independent of Wikipedia but to ritualistically ban an affiliate from making a contribution at all. Don't we lose valuable editors, information & peer review this way? I don't know, it feels like a an almost religious principle that is so often invoked with a focus on the wrong thing. Can I write an article about something I know firsthand about at all? Even when it's not original research. --Mouli Sharma (2003) (talk) 14:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mouli Sharma (2003): Hi. You are raising some complicated points about COI, and it might be better if you start a discussion about that on WT:COI or W:VP about them. I'll try to answer some of your other questions:
their being dismissed as COI because 'blogs' are not credible makes me hesitate to write about even visible phenomenon such as active protests & movements. Any advice on how to proceed in such cases (articles that rely, if not entirely, significantly on blogsites, social media & drivelinks as sources).
It don't think it is about credibility or COI, but about being a reliable source (with some editorial control). Wikipedia cannot (and should not) cover every minor protest in the world (e.g. 5 people protesting in one's housing society). But, if 5,000 people protest about something in a city (say the functioning of the city government), then there will be newspaper journalists there covering the issue and those articles would be good to use as references.Can I write an article about something I know firsthand about at all? Even when it's not original research.
If it isn't original research, then how do you know about it? You probably read it in a book or website or journal, right? Those would be acceptable references to use. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the help! Noted about the WT:COI or W:VP discussions. And I understand that so long as a source appears reliable (well referenced & with apparent editorial effort), it may be referenced (as I've seen done so often as well, to be honest. I was just wary of the 'warnings' as a relatively new user, so I thought it best to clarify), which solves problem one, thank you.
- For the second issue, I meant something different. Let me give two examples: one, it's not original research on Wikipedia, but referenceable in a third-party publication. Self-citation, to be clear, which is carefully accepted & occasionally necessary even within academia, but obviously scrutinized (as it should be). Two - and I now realize this is where it becomes the kind of thing that I imagine is better discussed in the COI page, so I'll do that - I read an article about Native American users being told their assertions of either their own or someone else's Native American identity came under 'COI' which is complicated, & raises as you rightly put, complicated questions. But thank you either way, I think my doubts are mostly cleared, as I wanted to begin work on an article about a protest (not a small one, don't worry, a major one) that I have covered in the past & do have privileged knowledge of. I've reviewed a few articles flagged COI & gone through the process & as far as I gather from that & from your response, writing the article should not be a problem so long as another editor reviews it for credibility (of my sources) & neutrality (of me). It will be my first article so I was a bit worried. I hope to reach out when I'm done! Mouli Sharma (2003) (talk) 09:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Urban District redirects
[edit]I am being regularly notified about '[name] Urban District redirects' - as most are not relevant to my interests, what tickbox/notification do I change the status of? Jackiespeel (talk) 20:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I assume that this is about redirects like Porthmadog Urban District. You started that page in 2015 and now you are considered the creator of the page. The PageTriage extension that is used for reviewing articles and redirects sends out messages to creators when these are tagged/marked for deletion/reviewed. I don't think there is a way to stop the notification from being sent by PageTriage, but see if the notification has some sort of link saying "Ignore notifications like these". I'm not sure about the last part, but that's your best bet. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Jackiespeel, you can mute notifications from MPGuy2824 here. – DreamRimmer (talk) 06:02, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Question from Abdihakimslp (05:58, 24 November 2024)
[edit]Hello, I'm still trying to figure out how to upload my picture on my Wikipedia page? --Abdihakimslp (talk) 05:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- I sent you the link to Help:Introduction to images with Wiki Markup/1 last time. Did you start on that? What step are you getting stuck at? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
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Regarding Move to Draft
[edit]I am not able to use this function, it shows 'Article Exists'. Kindly help Taabii (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Taabii, which particular article are you trying to draftify? My guess is that the draft with that name already exists which is why you cannot overwrite it with the article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I wanted to draftity Tanvir Mehedi, it is now deleted. Taabii (talk) 12:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think I was right: Looking at Draft:Tanvir Mehedi we can see that both the article and the draft were deleted at the same time, which means that they both existed when you were trying to draftify the article. Happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I wanted to draftity Tanvir Mehedi, it is now deleted. Taabii (talk) 12:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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