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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Discussions: RM, Wallis, Duchess of Windsor → Wallis Simpson, Moved, 22 May 2011, Talk:Wallis Simpson/Archive 1#Requested move RM, Wallis Simpson → Wallis, Duchess of Windsor, Not moved, 9 December 2017, Talk:Wallis Simpson/Archive 1#Requested move 9 December 2017 RM, Wallis Simpson → Wallis, Duchess of Windsor, Not moved, 29 July 2023, discussion

Why is the article named "Wallis Simpson" and not "Wallis, Duchess of Windsor"? She was married to Ernest Simpson for 9 years, and to the Duke of Windsor for 35 years. She resumed her maiden name after her divorce from Simpson. ThreeOfCups (talk)

Per WP:CONSORTS, courtesy titles are only used by living or recently decease subjects, other than that they should revert back to their common name before the courtesy title. Most sources refer to her as Simpson rather than Warfield. --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 23:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The part about Wallis being in China already has 4 citations. We don't need an additional 6 unformatted bare links, which includes 4 deprecated sources (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Self-published sources). These citations[1] should be removed. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Celia Homeford citations are about the people not the country and are not deprecated and not self-published and not offline 3MRB1 (talk) 09:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Familysearch is deprecated: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial_sources#FamilySearch. HouseHistree is self-published. All the content of that sentence is already supported by the citations at the end of the sentence. They are not offline: they are available for free at https://openlibrary.org/books/OL24924598M/Behind_closed_doors and https://openlibrary.org/books/OL8612543M/The_Duchess_Of_Windsor. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Celia Homeford Houisehistree is not self-published like youtube, okay on FS 3MRB1 (talk) 09:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not the only criterion for whether a source is reliable. Please engage with WP:Reliable sources. Remsense诉 09:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HouseHistree is user-generated. It is therefore self-published according to the Reliable sources policy. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/K2SG-1KC/herman-livingston-rogers-1891-1957 3MRB1 (talk) 09:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FamilySearch. Remsense诉 09:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://househistree.com/people/herman-livingston-rogers 3MRB1 (talk) 10:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also user-generated. What are you doing? Remsense诉 10:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense what are you adding? 3MRB1 (talk) 10:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing else to add, because there's one well-defined reason these sources shouldn't be in the article. All we can do is attempt to make the same point in different ways. Remsense诉 10:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Remsense you were thoughtlessly undoing my edits which were removals thus adding back, so you don't know what you are doing 3MRB1 (talk) 10:22, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]