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The contents of the USB 3.1 page were merged into USB 3.0 on April 2017. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

On 13 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to USB 3.x. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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tag as numerous sentences in the article refer to 2010 data -- or refer to events that will happen in 2010 or early 2011 in the future tense. Someone needs to go through and update the article thoroughly as well as fix tense. Nasukaren (talk) 01:29, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bad wikipedia page. Bad. 49.183.221.95 (talk) 04:43, 14 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

What's so bad? Any chances for more details, please? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 17:20, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been found to be edited by students of the Wikipedia:India Education Program project as part of their (still ongoing) course-work. Unfortunately, many of the edits in this program so far have been identified as plain copy-jobs from books and online resources and therefore had to be reverted. See the India Education Program talk page for details. In order to maintain the WP standards and policies, let's all have a careful eye on this and other related articles to ensure that no copyrighted material remains in here. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 15:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could meanwhile identify some of the edits by user Keyur2808 to be 1:1 copies from [1], thereby clearly constituting a violation of copyright. Just to give one example, search for the phrase: "Hubs have always been a key element in the plug-and-play architecture of the USB. Hosts provide an implementation-specific number of downstream ports to which devices can be attached.", which was added on 2011-10-22 [2]. I therefore removed the whole section "Hot plugging". However, I don't have the time to look over all the other edits of the past weeks, so I would appreciate if someone with more time at hands would take over to clear up this article. Thanks. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 16:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The section "Electrical characteristics and power management", added by Keyur2808, was removed as well. It was a 1:1 copy of sentences found in [3], [4] and [5], with the later two most probably constituting plagiarism of yet another source themselves (probably another original USB doc). --Matthiaspaul (talk) 17:35, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraph about data bursting was removed as well from the article since it was a 1:1 copy of chapter 4.4.1. of the USB 3.0 standard [6] and therefore constituted a copyright violation. It had been added by user Keyur2808 on 2011-10-21. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 23:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed paragraphs about "USB 3.0 Standard-B", "USB 3.0 Powered-B" and "USB 3.0 Micro-B" connectors which were copies of chapter 5.2.1.2, 5.2.1.3. and 5.2.1.4 of the USB 3.0 standard with minimal changes. It was added by Keyur2808 on 2011-10-25. And there's still more stolen contents to be removed from the article... --Matthiaspaul (talk) 23:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On the side panel apple computers is listed as a manufacture but in the last sentence (of the introduction) it states that they have chosen to adopt a different port. Can anyone confirm this because it seem strange that they would reject what they manufacture. 60.242.188.86 (talk) 00:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apple is *not* a manufacturer of USB chipsets nor the ports needed for 3.0. Apple only integrates the components from other manufacturers (or doesn't) into what they do manufacture (which is only whole systems and major subassemblies of such, but not at large anymore components or chipsets–with some notable exceptions like the A4/A5 CPUs used in mobile devices). Since Apple only uses Intel chipsets in their computers and since the USB 3.0 specification was still receiving not insignificant revisions to it that would make manufacturers of computers or mobile devices wary of potential compatibility issues as of late 2011, it would stand to reason that these two things are the true primary reason Apple does not support (or can't) USB 3.0 in its computers yet. It is not really their fault, but it is more Intel to blame. I just love it when people poke the finger at Apple like they are conspiring to reject USB 3.0... This is not the case. If anybody was conspiring to reject USB 3.0, it would be Intel because Intel knew it was developing a competing interface called Thunderbolt which was to be released later than USB 3.0.>>=---><applimattic---> 23:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To extend this line, we still need a source if we're going to say stuff like, "Thus, Intel's lack of support for USB 3.0 proves to be a primary reason why Apple has yet to ship any computers with USB 3.0 capable ports." That's original research. Seems to make sense, and the conspiracy theory above might support it, but it's got to be sourced before it hits the 'pedia, yes? Rufwork (talk) 19:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On FAQ publish by Intel Development Forum (IDF 2008). To quote "USB 3.0 was developed by six industry-leading companies, collectively named the USB 3.0 Promoter Group: Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Microsoft, NEC (now known as Renesas Electronics), ST-NXP Wireless (now known as ST-Ericsson), and Texas Instruments." [Link:http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/universal-serial-bus/universal-serial-bus-faq.html?wapkw=usb+3.0+2008 ].

Bonvallite (talk) 11:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First line of article states that this is the 2nd revision of USB, confusing since it's 3.0. Recommendation is to add source of this fact (or fix if mistake). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.102.82 (talk) 06:17, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's:

USB 1.0 - original, not a revision. USB 1.1 - first revision. USB 2.0 - first major revision. USB 3.0 - second major revision (as the article states). - Josh (talk | contribs) 22:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is correct. In computer taxonomy of revision numbers, every whole number is a MAJOR version. Every decimal number or "point release" is a minor revision. That system is nearly universally used now for hardware versions, software versions and even documentation versions like this. All records concerned with USB would show that USB hardware was locked with releases 1.1, 2.0, and 3.0 specs... However, don't be fooled into thinking USB 1.0 was the original, there were many revisions before that.. all of course "minor".. Since 2.0 from 1.1 was the first major revision, that makes 3.0 from 2.0 the second (as the article states).>>=---><applimattic---> 23:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Atari's SIO ports are a lot like USB. The person who created SIO for Atari also worked on the original USB standard. Might retcon SIO as USB 0.1 Bizzybody (talk) 11:16, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The text states several times that ports require "0.9 milliwatts" of power to be available. This needs to be changed to "0.9 watts" or "900 milliwatts". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.175.202.86 (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

At least the ports weren't claimed to require "0.9 megawatts". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.79.226.32 (talk) 18:49, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The text states "Windows 8 was the first operating system to offer built in support for USB 3.0.", but in the paragraph above it states "The Linux kernel has supported USB 3.0 since version 2.6.31, which was released in September 2009." While Development of Windows 8 started in 2009, it was first announced at CES 2011, and the first pre-release version of came out in 9/2011. Therefore, I submit that the statement that Windows 8 was the first operating system to offer support for USB 3.0 is incorrect. It may be better stated with a qualifier as "Windows 8 was the first Microsoft operating System to offer ..." since Linux supported USB 3.0 since 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewneely (talk • contribs) 14:58, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No idea how to upload the images, but since it took me a while to understand that the A connectors also had 9 pins, i took a couple pictures to show it. They are free to use.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcb/8362939551/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcb/8362940085/in/photostream/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.95.54.37 (talk) 06:32, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded! The images currently in the article proper do not show the new pins at all. One of them might even lead one to believe that the extra pins are in the shield (since there the four original pins and background showing through holes in the shield are of very similar colour). 78.73.90.148 (talk) 11:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help expand and improve on connectors to list are the following

• Standard-A connector and receptacle
• Standard-B connector and receptacle
• Powered-B connector and receptacle (new in USB 3.0)
• Micro-AB receptacle
• Micro-A connector
• Micro-B connector and receptacle

Bonvallite (talk) 16:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The new version of USB is already written, and even demonstrated working at CES 2013. It is up for review to be finalized in the first quarter of 2013. Specification release announcement can be found here. It is *also* called SuperSpeed USB 3.0, which may lead to some confusion. Someone might want to do a write up soon, since it will soon be finalized. 173.66.7.99 (talk) 00:13, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CNET wrote an article about this today. It is named USB 3.1. The article. -"SimonOrJ"^(U/T/C) 02:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The tables (and picture) in this section are jumbled on top of each other when viewed in 1024x768 display. The second table should probably be moved down.

Also, could there be more information regarding the new type B connectors (pictured)? For example, to what extent they are backward compatible (perhaps with a mention of speed loss). 108.202.193.175 (talk) 16:51, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There you go, please check it out. Regarding the issue with tables overlapping, you're right and I've also noticed that before – that's up to the {{multicol}} tag, please report that at the appropriate talk page. — Dsimic (talk) 17:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, the tables were still bugging me, and not just because of the multiple-column formatting abuse. 40% of the information in the second table was identical to the Standard "B" column of the first, and another 50% (the Descriptions) belonged in the first table as well! So, I decided to be WP:BOLD and meld the two mild-mannered ordinary tables into a single, all-powerful SuperTable! (Patent Pending.)

The table now just sits right in the article flow, and it plays nice with all of the standard wrapping/sizing/floating/styling. The Powered-B pins are included along with everything else, hung right off the bottom. If color assignments are eventually obtained for Powered-B pins 10 and 11, those cells can be "turned on" with a little massaging of the wikitable code. Descriptions visibly apply to the pin asignments for all connector types.

In the process, I made a few ancillary adjustments, which I'll point out here for everyone's target practice:

• Moved "Shield" row to the start of the table, for hopefully-obvious reasons.
• Changed color of the drain wire (pin 7) from "Shield" to "Bare". Partly because "Shield" isn't a color, but more because the drain is specifically an unshielded wire, so "Shield" was a confusing description. The color description should ideally be "Unshielded", IMHO, but "Bare" fit better in the space. If anyone finds the term objectionable, "Unshielded" would be a correct alternative.
• Normalized capitalization use in the Descriptions.
• Changed Description of Shell from "Connector metal" to "Metal housing".
• (Non-visible code change) Wrapped the arguments to all style= parameters in double quotes.

I'll also note that I must've gone back and forth a dozen times on whether the header row between pins 9 & 10 should be styled "border:none". Ultimately I decided against it, as there's a slightly more cohesive feel to the entire table if the following rows don't appear completely disconnected from what's above.

Hopefully this format will meet with everyone's approval. Comments/critiques/suggestions/flames welcome. Reverts poutingly endured. FeRD_NYC (talk) 15:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey FeRD NYC, you did a great job merging those two tables into a SuperTable! :) Previously, the slight abuse of multiple-column formatting has solved the issue of overlapping tables (can't find my exact commit at the moment), but this merged layout is waaay better, as it makes the whole thing much more understandable and better described. Just looking at the shared descriptions is enough for favoring the new layout.

I've just gilded the lily by centering the table (looks better positioned that way), doing some small CSS cleanups, aligning the "Description" column (yeah, was thinking of rows for some reason while writing the commit comment ;) cells to the left (a standard for such text cells, and makes it more readable), and substituted "N/A" for the cells stating there's no data applicable (or no color-coding available).

For the pin #7 (GND_DRAIN), if I'm not mistaken its wire isn't exactly "Unshielded" but actually "Uninsulated" thus actually in contact with the cable's shielding (this image shows it well)? Anyway, for it and Shell there's no color-coding available, so "N/A" should fit well, if you agree.

Regarding the last two rows (pins #10 and #11), I've also went a few times between empty cells and one big "N/A" taking up all the space, opting for that big "N/A" in the end. That way it's clear that data isn't available (or not applicable), so nobody can instead think of some table layout issues.

Hope you agree. Thoughts? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 03:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"On January 4, 2010, Seagate announced a small portable HDD with PC Card targeted for laptops (or desktop with PC Card slot addition) at the CES in Las Vegas Nevada." That's an Express Card, not a PC Card nor a CardBus card. There are no USB 3.0 PC Card or CardBus adapters. That should go into the do not use the wrong terminology file, same as the cases where people mix up PCI, PCIe and PCI-X. Bizzybody (talk) 11:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great catch! Got the article edited so this is corrected, please check it out. — Dsimic (talk) 04:56, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In two places the article refers to "Go/s" - is this supposed to be GB/s? If not, then what is it? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:02, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article was vandalised about two days ago. It's fixed now, thank you for pointing it out. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 00:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 01:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No one takes into account the 8b/10b encoding to convert the units GB/s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daroooo (talk • contribs) 12:06, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, here's a quotation from the article's USB 3.0 § Data encoding section, which takes that into account:

The "SuperSpeed" bus provides for a transfer mode at a nominal rate of 5.0 Gbit/s, in addition to the three existing transfer modes. Accounting for encoding overhead, the raw data throughput is 4 Gbit/s, and the specification considers it reasonable to achieve 3.2 Gbit/s (0.4 GB/s or 400 MB/s) or more in practice.

Looking good? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 07:58, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the chart shown in the USB 3.2 section, they divide the bits per second by 8 to get bytes per second and I think that is wrong. Because of the 8b/10b encoding, you should do a straight divide by 10 to convert from bits to bytes. I'm not 100% positive and I don't really want to edit the original page but thought I would mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pedzsan (talk • contribs) 14:36, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

=LIKE 2.00 Manoj kumar madheshiya (talk) 21:17, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not doing this on the front page because in a way I'm being contentious, daring to question the authorities contention that USB 3 A sockets are compatible with USB 2 A plugs - the pins are insufficiently robust and do in due course bend, making the entire socket unusable. Some such mention should be made to maintain NPOV.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.25.142.238 (talk) 22:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sorry, but I'm not really sure what insufficient robustness are you referring to? USB 3.0 type-A sockets are perfectly backward compatible with USB 2.0 type-A plugs, it's just that additional contacts in the USB 3.0 socket are left unused in that case. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 22:24, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The picture at the bottom-left of the page under the heading "Backward compatibility" contains the text "Macro-B superspeed" in the red text. 'Macro' Looks wrong but I can't fix it without removing the picture completely. Kayman1uk (talk) 14:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This should be renamed to USB 3 or USB 3.x — Omegatron (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I came to this article trying to figure out what the weird turquoise port on my computer was, and this article is clearly incomplete. This article should mention type A connector colors (with images), which seemed to start with USB 3. For example blue for 3.0, turquoise or cyan for 3.1 Gen 2. I think I've also seen green and red, but I'm not sure what those are. Possible source: https://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/usb-3-1-vs-usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-whats-the-difference/ I'd add the section myself, but it seems only wiki-lawyers can navigate all the rules and regulations to be able to actually post something without it being flagged and deleted these days, so I'll leave it to you. 2600:8800:7900:1A9:B538:CC69:5EB6:41AA (talk) 21:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am finding a factual disconnect between the USB-IF's own February 2019 press release (PDF) on what the USB 3.2 spec is (and therefore how various media outlets talk about USB 3.2) and information on this page and on computerlanguage.com.

I think the "Gen #x#" language has been dropped with the exception of USB 3.2 Gen 2x2. I have not modified this page because I'm not sure about the accuracy of the technical spec table in the USB 3.2 section. There are two 10gbps speeds listed but according to the PDF there appears to only be one, and I'm not versed in the technical details enough to accurately correct the article. Will someone who is please update this section? Chrisw10 (talk) 23:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article contains this table:

USB 3.2 transfer modes

USB-IF recommended marketing name[1]	Logo[2]	USB 3.2 transfer mode	Older specifications		Dual-lane	Encoding	Nominal speed		Connectors
			USB 3.1	USB 3.0			Gbit/s	GB/s	USB-A, B, micro B (SuperSpeed)[3]	USB-C
SuperSpeed USB		USB 3.2 Gen 1×1	USB 3.1 Gen 1	USB 3.0	No	8b/10b	5	0.500	Yes	Yes
SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s		USB 3.2 Gen 1×2	—	—	Yes	8b/10b	10	1.0	No	Yes
SuperSpeed USB 10 Gbit/s		USB 3.2 Gen 2×1	USB 3.1 Gen 2	—	No	128b/132b	10	1.2	Yes	Yes
SuperSpeed USB 20 Gbit/s		USB 3.2 Gen 2×2	—	—	Yes	128b/132b	20	2.4	No	Yes

But USB-C has a different table. Unfortunately, it cannot be included here because it is a non-free image. It is in the section Alternate Mode partner specifications, on the right side of the screen, with the caption Table showing various protocols supported by USB-C. Please check there.

They do not agree on the SuperSpeed 10 Gbit/s logos. I tried to read the reference^[2] but I can't make sense of this:

The USB-IF SuperSpeed USB Trident Logo may be used solely in conjunction with Product consisting of a hub, peripheral device, add-in card, motherboard, or cable and connector assembly (anything that is not a USB Host end product) that signals at 5 Gbps, that has been submitted to and passed the SuperSpeed USB Test Procedure, and that has been posted on the USB-IF Integrators List; or solely in conjunction with Product not consisting of a hub, peripheral device, add-in card, motherboard, or cable and connector assembly, that is based on and compliant with the USB-IF USB 3.2 specification.

To me, it seems to start out to say that the logo is for hubs, peripheral devices, add-in cards, motherboards, or cable and connector assemblies; anything that is not an USB Host end product, whatever that may be. But for USB 3.2, it should be used precisely on a Product not being any of the categories for which it should be used for the earlier mentioned (unversioned) criteria. Even my attempt at explanation is hard to read...

Could somebody who understands this (a seasoned lawyer?) please have our Wikipedia articles agree on what the symbols mean? Bonus points for getting it right as well. Thanks! Digital Brains (talk) 15:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So that non-free image was removed (makes sense), and it's no longer inconsistent. But is it right? I think that it would actually make sense if the SUPERSPEED colour logo is for USB 3.2 Gen 1×1 and Gen 1×2 cables, referring to the fact that the pairs are capable of the 5 Gbit/s per pair transfer mode, and the SUPERSPEED+ colour logo is for USB 3.2 Gen 2×1 and Gen 2×2 cables indicating the pairs are capable of the 10 Gbit/s per pair transfer mode. This would be more in line with source,^[4] since it indicates that existing cables will now be capable of the dual-pair speeds. A C-to-C cable fabricated to USB 3.1 Gen 1 carries the SUPERSPEED logo. It is also capable, per the source, of 3.2 Gen 1×2. The table indicates this would now mean it should carry the SUPERSPEED+ logo, but I suspect that is plain wrong. Digital Brains (talk) 18:25, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The SuperSpeed USB 20Gbps Trident Logo (looking like "SS 20") is available in updated logo usage guidelines PDF document (and has been already used on some products, e.g. ASUS ROG ZENITH II EXTREME) :

https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb-if_logo_usage_guidelines_final_103019.pdf

(if anyone is able to make SVG out of it, please add it to the "USB 3.2 transfer modes" table)

At the end of the lead section is an inline note (the USB 3.0 specification was released on 12 November 2008, not 2010) which appears to be disputing the date given in the infobox and maybe elsewhere in the article. I haven't got time to investigate further but it does need addressing and the article correcting if necessary. Awkward42 (talk) [the alternate account of Thryduulf (talk)] 00:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VIA did sell non supported 3.0 chipsets, support for it in 2020?. Not sure what boards made it to markets, 2008-2010 models, chips sets by VIA meant to be released for intel chips, Nvidia Nforce, but Core chips were only supporting native intel chips. So the backwards reengenierd the chips sets for AMD, legal issues too.... So we did see USB 3.0 support on some boards, before it was implemented in the USB consortium agreements. Some did got full USB 3,0 native support, some just half and half 2.0/ 3.0......, later diver support did fix some issues, not on all 2008-2010 boards!

Good luck writing this on wiki or get sources....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A452:7D4C:1:CC1B:F2CA:2543:6E5F (talk) 14:03, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1. 5G HOW TIME EGO LAUNCH IN BHARAT AND SPEED READEUSE 2500 MB PAR SECEND..! I WILL WAIT... Manoj kumar madheshiya (talk) 21:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is a MASSIVE backlash all over the Internet from the whole 3.0/3.1/3.2 gen 1,2,1x1,2x,1x2,2x2 naming madness. We really need a reception/criticism section in this wiki page to address that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.114.63.49 (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, we do not. That is still better than in HDMI 2.1. I.e. Fixed Rate Link (FRL) in HDMI 2.1 supports 6, 8, 10 Gbit, 12 Gbit over 4 lanes (Sony only has 8 over 4 lanes, for example, as it really used Display Port with max 32 gbit/s in version DP 1.4) and 3, 6 Gbit over 3 lanes. 109.252.90.66 (talk) 13:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On this topic, does anyone know if there is *anything* other than the link speed that differentiates USB 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2? As it stands as of this writing, the article doesn't present any other differences whatsoever. If there are other features that a USB 3.2 Gen 1 port can implement over a USB 3.1 Gen 1 port, then I think the naming makes sense. Otherwise I'm not so sure. --Dolda2000 (talk) 01:11, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree: it's a mess--dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(talk|contrib) 04:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Although both Gen 1 and 2 signal at 10 Gbit/s, Gen 1 uses the older, less efficient line coding which results in smaller byte-rate." but the list right before this sentence listed Gen 1 as 5 Gbit/s, not 10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.166.55 (talk) 20:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed it now, thanks for pointing it out! It was indeed quite confusing.Digital Brains (talk) 09:07, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The article very helpfully contains this paragraph

Unlike previous standards, the USB 3.0 standard does not specify a maximum cable length, requiring only that all cables meet an electrical specification: for copper cabling with AWG 26 wires, the maximum practical length is 3 meters (10 ft).

However, this discusses USB 3.0 cabling. Since later revisions increase the per-lane bandwidth, I wonder if it is still around 3 metres when lanes operate at 10 Gb/s. It would be great if the article provided this information. Digital Brains (talk) 09:54, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is most of the sentences when it comes to the USB 3.1 and USB 3.2 sections. There are slight inaccuracies and I find it rather confusingly presented.

I created a table that shows what exactly was renamed, what was added and what stayed the same, which I hope makes it much easier to follow and also reduces confusion. If you find this table helpful, I would integrate it, fix the small inaccuracies in the text (like the marketing name being "SuperSpeed USB 5Gbps" at some point. It never changed from "SuperSpeed USB"). And I would simplify the text a bit, using the table to show what changed names and focus the text more on the newly added things.

Talk:USB 3.0/usb3evolutionsandbox#Evolution of logos, marketing names and internal details across USB 3.x

RayWiki519 (talk) 23:24, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]