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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Pious Eterino in topic RFD discussion: March–August 2023

RFV discussion: September–November 2019

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"A trolling Internet publication." Hard to grasp what this means: is it a publication in the sense of a regular blog or zine, or merely any casual message or image posted in order to troll somebody? Equinox 14:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

  • No, not a publication. Though “trolling” is not a wrong word choice. It is when in a discussion, say a group chat, you post something only for the reaction, say problematize something in a politics chat that is a trope, a false dichotomy or the like. Then you can “not fall for this bait”, or say “this is bait”, “dodged your bait”, etc. See particularly this fish meme; KYM dates the term to 1995 even, referring to Usenet. Fay Freak (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

cited Kiwima (talk) 00:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

IMO these citations, though valid usage, are either the phrase flamebait (though spelled with a space) or the general (not Internet-specific) sense of something to entice or allure. I hardly see the point of the subsense: the context is different (Internet) but the meaning apparently is not. Equinox 17:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 21:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: March–August 2023

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Someone has added an entry for "bait" as it appears as part of a compound. Do we have any precedent for such an entry? Especially as the sense is really just the same as sense 3 (that which allures). Kiwima (talk) 02:35, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

There are plenty of entries for terms or senses that only appear in combination, the more relevant question's whether it's actually a separate sense. I'm inclined to delete unless someone can demonstrate a meaning that's distinct from sense 3—the current examples (queerbait, sequel bait, Netflix bait) don't, to me at least. A usage note for sense 3 that it's often used informally in compounds might be more appropriate. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply