Commons:Deletion requests/2024/12/01

Same case as Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bear, UC San Diego.jpg. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 01:47, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that this logo does meet the threshold for originality. Panamitsu (talk) 03:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AI upscalling. Cf. other images of this map, eg. File:FraMauroDetailedMap.jpg and the image talk page. Ankry (talk) 03:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Delete, this image is not really helpful in any context given we have a proper, non AI-mangled image. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 04:26, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Keep This is a point of view related to the scale of the definition; the image is useful and used. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:30, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Info Used is not a problem as we have a better quality replacement that is readable unlike this one. However, I would appreciate opinion of users why they prefer the lower quality AI-altered image over higher quality real one. Ankry (talk) 12:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Speedy keep COM:INUSE is certainly a problem. Replace all the uses of the file if you like and then come back. You may think a few Commons users should overrule decisions on dozens of Wikipedias, but I'm here to say that COM:INUSE exists to prevent that, outside of issues like copyright that have to supersede use. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:07, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It is not a problem. The deleting admin may create a redirect to a better version of the image untill all usage is replaced. Ankry (talk) 19:53, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    And while I didn't check all usage, I checked about 5-7 and saw that in all those cases the original image, File:FraMauroDetailedMap.jpg until it was replaced with the one being discussed, so we could restore that one I would think. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 20:04, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Go ahead. I object to deletion per COM:INUSE as long as this image is in use. If it's not in use, I don't care. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:44, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Delete, the AI "upscaling" rendered most of the text on the map virtually unreadable. Look no further than the top-right quadrant, where the text under ETHYOPIA AVSTRAL: Ethyopia quasi deserta e montuosa, has been disfigured into an illegible smudge. SOLTANIA has somehow become SOLINNCIA. Who is this image useful for? Hythonia (talk) 13:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Delete This image is really blurry in many places (eg. Balanga region). The original is much more useful and this one only pretends to be useful. Fra'Mauro was definitely more talented than today's AI. Msz2001 (talk) 13:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete. The upscaling on this image is atrocious - how did this ever get selected as a valued image? The set of concentric circles (representing celestial spheres) at the upper left is a great example - each circle is supposed to be labeled, but the upscaling has removed most of the text and mangled the rest. Omphalographer (talk) 20:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  CommentI think the result is not good. The image can be erased. But the tool is interesting, you should not be afraid of it.... --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:26, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  AI is certainly a valuable tool, but concern over applying it to historical maps and charts is warranted. These high-resolution reproductions are often used by researchers, and AI tools - even good ones - can easily remove small but critical details. Julesvernex2 (talk) 20:20, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep as long is in use. --Krd 06:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete. As per Omphalographer, dreadful quality of text. No Swan So Fine (talk) 16:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The file is a Wikipedia discussion screenshot, not an "own work" as stated. Well very well (talk) 03:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

А скриншот — это не своя работа? RealBogKon (talk) 11:42, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Нет, так как на скриншоте в том числе изображены элементы интерфейса MediaWiki. Well very well (talk) 04:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this image Citizen arindam (talk) 04:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus is that non-upi parts of bettman archive are copyrighted Bramnickatriot (talk) 04:27, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no author no permission no metadata protected movie logo Hoyanova (talk) 08:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a text logo that doesn't qualify for copyright protection. Nakonana (talk) 21:08, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this file does not belong on Commons, but on the VRT system Gampe (talk) 08:05, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

useless scan of nothing, as many other similar imports in Fleurons - F (talk) 08:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person in case died in 1982, the photo was taken in the 1930s, the photograpg is unknown. For sure it is not ofn work of 2024 Leokand (talk) 08:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person in case died in 1982, the photo was taken in the 1930s, the photograpg is unknown. For sure it is not ofn work of 2024 Leokand (talk) 08:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it Nick 1721 (talk) 10:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person in case died in 1982, the photo was taken in the 1930s, the photograpg is unknown. For sure it is not ofn work of 2024 Leokand (talk) 08:26, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

uploaded with no-permission tag. pd-usgov?

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Krd 08:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are military photos. Public domain as work of the miltary SecretName101 (talk) 21:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep SecretName101 (talk) 13:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Trade as no permission (No permission since) Krd 09:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Komarof as Dw no source since (dw no source since) Krd 09:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

خارج النطاق  Mohammed Qays  🗣 09:26, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy of File:Dongdan Underground line1.jpg The Little Chinese Engine (talk) 09:26, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

شعار له حقوق  Mohammed Qays  🗣 09:27, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The File:Freezing rain at night in Shandong, China (20240220).webm is completely duplicated with another file. It is recommended to redirect the file. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 09:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file does not depict the right person Arx76 (talk) 09:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Arx76:  Keep We do not delete images that depict the wrong person, we change the title and description, otherwise the image will appear in other forums with the incorrect description. What evidence can you present of who this is, and who this is not. I agree now that it is probably someone a generation earlier in the family, they recycled the same names in each generation. I will fix it once we work out who it is and who it isn't. What info can you garner from the uniform? --RAN (talk) 19:57, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

useless scan of nothing, as many other similar imports in Fleurons - F (talk) 10:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not like own work UltimoGrimm (talk) 13:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no author given no metadata no details - this is an older image and clearly not "own work" as claimed Hoyanova (talk) 13:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Keep I fixed attribution and license, "PD-EU-no author disclosure". --RAN (talk) 02:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no author given no metadata clearly an older image but source unknown, definitely not "own work: Hoyanova (talk) 13:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination withdrawn, please do not delete: I have now uploaded a better resolution version of this file, and this is worth keeping in its own right. The Anome (talk) 09:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyrighted poster of the Cathay Pacific. Solomon203 (talk) 13:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kept by @Bastique: . Calligraphic works are copyrighted in China, and vector format images of fonts may be copyrighted in the United States (see {{PD-font}}), so this image (based on calligraphic works by Qi Gong, who died in 2005) should be deleted. dringsim 14:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how specific Chinese law is, but the US Law may protect the typeface as a whole, e.g. the instructions necessary to render a typeface but not the actual use of that font, regardless of file type. Chinese law is almost certainly more nuanced than simply "calligraphic works are copyrighted" but I yield to those more qualified to speak to Chinese copyright law. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 16:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Un use, no G7 200.39.139.12 15:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pas à jour du tout Karima de la fête (talk) 15:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Not a reason for deletion. --Rosenzweig τ 21:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• And also,  Speedy keep per COM:INUSE. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The file uses {{PD-Iran}}, but it is nt a photographic work (the poster is a painting) and it doesn't seems to be an anonymous work as it is signed (left border). Thus, to keep this file we need to have the data of the author and corroborate that they died before 1980. Günther Frager (talk) 15:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's been discussed before: Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2023-05#Iranian_pre-revolutionary_film_posters. Hanooz 16:39, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This image has little to no legitimacy, being a symbol of an obscure reddit group rather than the work of known and recognized organisation working on the subject of detransition. As such, I believe this enters the case of "Out of scope" deletion under the category "Self-created artwork without obvious educational use.". It also seems to be an ideological upload given the name of the person who added it to the page. Inactife (talk) 15:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've been copied on this. I have no opinion. Kwamikagami (talk) 21:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

L'image n'est plus cédée par l'auteur de la photo, qui l'avait réalisée dans le cadre d'un entretien. Enzo.brrt (talk) 16:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

En publiant la photo sous licence CC-BY-SA vous avez accepté les conditions de la licence. Celle-ci n'est pas révocable. Si la photo a été cédée, elle a été cédée. XIIIfromTOKYO (talk) 18:04, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No es own work. 200.39.139.12 16:39, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The file contains grammatical errors in terms of the language they are made in: the bottom line of text in the center circle should be written "ЗА КРАЉА И ОТАЏБИНУ", not "ЗА КРАЛJА И ОТАДЦБИНУ". See the image in the file source for the correct spelling. 217.66.156.17 18:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image is not Creative Commons: https://www.instagram.com/botafogo/p/DCmuYthv9I3/?img_index=4 NullReason (talk) 18:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image is not Creative Commons: https://www.instagram.com/botafogo/p/DCmuYthv9I3/?img_index=4 NullReason (talk) 18:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not own work. Rwzi (talk) 18:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo,

Klopt, het zou ook bijzonder zijn dat de handtekening van iemand anders eigen werk zou zijn. Toen ik het uploade anderhalf jaar geleden was ik nog niet zo bekend met hoe het zit van aangeven wie de auteur is. Nu weet ik dat inmiddels wel. Maar dat maakt toch niet zoveel uit dat er eigen werk staat? Er staat toch duidelijk dat de handtekening van Hanne Verbruggen is?

Met vriendelijke groet, Aaron371 (talk) 21:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not own work. Rwzi (talk) 19:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo,

Klopt, het zou ook bijzonder zijn dat de handtekening van iemand anders eigen werk zou zijn. Toen ik het uploade anderhalf jaar geleden was ik nog niet zo bekend met hoe het zit van aangeven wie de auteur is. Nu weet ik dat inmiddels wel. Maar dat maakt toch niet zoveel uit dat er eigen werk staat? Er staat toch duidelijk dat de handtekening van Marthe De Pillecyn is?

Met vriendelijke groet, Aaron371 (talk) 21:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyviocopyviocopyvio Svajcr (talk) 19:15, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not own work. Rwzi (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo,

Klopt, het zou ook bijzonder zijn dat de handtekening van iemand anders eigen werk zou zijn. Toen ik het uploade anderhalf jaar geleden was ik nog niet zo bekend met hoe het zit van aangeven wie de auteur is. Nu weet ik dat inmiddels wel. Maar dat maakt toch niet zoveel uit dat er eigen werk staat? Er staat toch duidelijk dat de handtekening van Julia Boschman is?

Met vriendelijke groet, Aaron371 (talk) 21:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no source. copyright? Xocolatl (talk) 19:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mishap in pattypan, source added. --Plánovací kalendář (talk) 19:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no source. copyright? Xocolatl (talk) 19:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mishap in pattypan, source added. --Plánovací kalendář (talk) 19:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyright violation? see https://www.dipusevilla.es/comunicacion/noticias/Exposicion-antologica-del-pintor-sevillano-Ricardo-Casstillo-en-la-Casa-de-la-Provincia-de-la-Diputacion-de-Sevilla/ Xocolatl (talk) 19:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyright violation? see metadata Xocolatl (talk) 19:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio: This logo belongs to a corporation in Turkey. Kutay_(talk) 19:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free copyrighted image. Vengeance • Talk 19:37, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An SVG image is now on here and this is no longer needed: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hallmark_Family_2024.svg OWaunTon (talk) 19:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SVG logo exists on this wiki: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KAUT_2023.svg OWaunTon (talk) 20:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyright violation. https://ricardocasstillo.com/galeria-ricardo-casstillo/1985-menhires/ Xocolatl (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taken from this book; issue date is 1995 and there is no proof author agreed to the CC license.

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Gikü (talk) 20:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

wrong date, wrong author, copyright violation, see https://ricardocasstillo.com/galeria-ricardo-casstillo/1984-el-cuadro-perdido/ Xocolatl (talk) 20:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An SVG of this image exists: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KAZT_2024.svg OWaunTon (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

copyright violation, see metadata and https://ricardocasstillo.com/el-nacimiento-de-un-movimiento-artistico-la-generacion-de-los-80-en-sevilla-iv/ Xocolatl (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SVG logo exists on this wiki: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KSVI-DT2_2024.svg OWaunTon (talk) 20:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does not look like own work, probably real authors' copyright violation. Taivo (talk) 20:27, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THis is a picture from an ad in the Israeli Newspaper. Since it is a paid advertisement, I don't think it is protected by any rights. I actually took the picture from the paper.Joebande123 (talk) 20:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paid advertisements are almost always protected with copyright. Taivo (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of an unremarkable person originally attempting to create his own wikipedia page for notriety. Image should be deleted as the page is ultimately non-existent. Dev scribe (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Da der Urheber nicht angegeben ist, können wir auch nicht wissen, ob das Wappen alt genug ist. Daher bis auf weiteres Copyvio. GerritR (talk) 20:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The photo is not published under CC-0. It can nevertheless be in public domain, if first publication data can be found. I did not find. Taivo (talk) 20:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Da der Urheber nicht angegeben ist, wissen wir auch nicht, ob das Wappen alt genug ist. Daher bis auf Weiteres Copyvio GerritR (talk) 20:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ohne Kontext völlig unklar, um was es hier geht - out of scope (Wappen von was? Fantasie?) Und wie steht es um das Copyright? GerritR (talk) 20:57, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Supposedly it's the coa of de:Röhrmoos. Other versions by the same user: File:2024-Wappen.png and File:1250Jahre Roehrmoos Wappen.png. Older uploads: File:Wappen roehrmoos.png and File:Wappen Roehrmoos.svg (with the boar head taken from somewhere else). --Rosenzweig τ 10:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Gemeindewappen - LAZ--GerritR (talk) 21:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative of a copyrighted work. I made this flag. When I made it, I used the central symbol from File:Musqueam flag.svg, which I had trusted to be freely licensed. However, when I tried to verify the free license on File:Musqueam flag.svg, I could not substantiate it, and all signs point to it being copyrighted. It has since been deleted as no source of a free license could be found. Since my flag is derivative of that presumed-copyrighted work, I think it should be deleted also. Intervex (talk) 20:58, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Da der Urheber nicht genannt ist, wissen wir auch nicht, ob das Wappen alt genug ist. Daher bis auf Weiteres Copyvio. GerritR (talk) 21:05, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Keep A 1909 anonymous image is PD in the EU. Translate: "Since the author is not named, we do not know whether the coat of arms is old enough. Therefore, until further notice". --RAN (talk) 02:15, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete 1909 is the year this association was founded, not necessarily the year this drawing was created. The immediate source is a web site, so we do not know if the drawing is actually older than the web site. We're not told anything about when, where, how it was published first. Delete per the precautionary principle unless we get a convincing rationale that the drawing is either in the public domain or under a free license. --Rosenzweig τ 10:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Visible scan artifacts; no proof of permission.

• File:Scoaterea mortului din casă.jpg
• File:Slujba din biserica.jpg
• File:Ritualul înmormântării.jpg

Gikü (talk) 21:33, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion this is not a simple logo. Complex logos can be in Commons only with VRT-permission. Taivo (talk) 21:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From COM:TOO Japan: "Japanese courts have decided that to be copyrightable, a text logo needs to have artistic appearance that is worth artistic appreciation. Logos composed merely of geometric shapes and texts are also not copyrightable in general." Each shape is simple, but the combination is not. What do we know about how Japanese courts would rule on this? File:Cup Noodles.jpg has what could be considered complex curves, but those are ultimately just lines, not combinations of shapes. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:36, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Out-of-focus. There's nothing here that specifically identifies the atoms as Ti or H, as compared to File:Methane-3D-space-filling.png or any other tetrahedral structure. Wouldn't Ti have a substantially larger vdW radius compared to H? DMacks (talk) 21:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete, also unlike Titanium(IV)-hydride-3D-balls.png, differing only in the way the structure is depicted. Alfa-ketosav (talk) 21:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promo. Perhaps File:4 membri.jpg should be deleted for the same reason. Article attempted at ro:Hold On. Gikü (talk) 21:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The file is mine and it need corrections BlackwolfAlpha (talk) 21:47, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep COM:INUSE. Make the corrections and use the "Upload a new version of this file" button on the file page, so that the new version automatically replaces the current one in w:es:Cuerpo de Bomberos de Valparaíso. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:40, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The file is mine and it need corrections BlackwolfAlpha (talk) 21:47, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The file is mine and it need corrections BlackwolfAlpha (talk) 21:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Self promotion Atomicdragon136 (talk) 21:55, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Delete not in scope. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 18:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This file was initially tagged by Intervex as no permission (No permission since) Labattblueboy (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Keep Image is now tagged with PD-GovEdict as 15 U.S.C. Sec. 1052(b)(2) indicates that a government flag or coat of arms can't be trademarked in the United States.--Labattblueboy (talk) 23:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Please provide evidence that this is actually the case. The edict license tag is for actual *edicts* - texts like laws, executive orders, judicial decisions. PD-GovEdict does not cover intellectual property such as flags or coats of arms. Its intended use case is files like File:1941 North Dakota Session Laws.pdf and File:09WYConstitution.pdf.

  Governmental flags can be both copyrighted and trademarked in the USA - many cities and First Nations have copyrighted and/or trademarked flags. See Commons:Threshold_of_originality#Flags for some examples. Intervex (talk) 23:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. A significant number of US flags are using PD-GovEdict. I’m not claiming that’s correct but it is consistent. If that’s an issue it’s a discussion for elsewhere.
2. There is no registered copyright for the Tohono O’Odham Nation flag.Labattblueboy (talk) 19:21, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   1. I have elsewhere brought up the fact that PD-GovEdict is often being misused, e.g. Template talk:PD-EdictGov. This is 100% a tangent but I am genuinely curious why you went that direction because you're not the first person to do that in response to a flag permission/sourcing issue - I'd like to make sure that current documentation isn't confusing people.

   2. Copyright registration has been completely optional in the United States since 1989. If there's a registry, then it's copyrighted. But no registry does not mean not copyrighted.

   Per the USPTO: "While many people believe that you must register your work with the U.S. Copyright Office before you can claim a copyright, no registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure a copyright. A copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, as long as the work contains a sufficient degree of originality, and a work comes into being when it is fixed in a “copy or a phonorecord for the first time.”" [1]

   If the flag is from before 1989, then it gets more complicated. (See Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United States for a helpful reference table.)

   The bad news is I haven't been able to find a version of the flag from before 2000. This flag is well above Threshold of Originality in the USA, so is likely copyrighted, which is why I tagged this as NPD. If you can find a version of the flag from before 1989, that then opens up the need for investigating notice/registration.

   I'd myself prefer for the flag to remain on Commons, and spent a fair bit of time trying to find a find a pre-2000 version of the flag. It was because I was unsuccessful that I applied the NPD tag. If you can find out who made the original version and when, that would help out. (I've also tried looking for Papago flag, which is the old and dispreferred term for the Tohono O'odham.)

   Alternatively, if you can secure permission from the Tohono O'odham Nation, that would be sufficient to keep the flag on Commons. The permission would need to be sent to Commons:Volunteer Response Team. Intervex (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15 U.S.C. Sec. 1052(b)(2) states a government flag or coat of arms can't be trademarked in the United States: "Consists of or comprises the flag or coat of arms or other insignia of the United States, or of any State or municipality, or of any foreign nation, or any simulation thereof". The same is detailed within the US Trademark Manual of Examining Procedure (version Nov 2024), Sec. 1204. The Tohono O'odham Nation registered protected intellectual property through the registration of other trademarks (for their casinos) so copyright would have almost surely been registered if it was intended (or eligible). How Native American Tribal (nation) status, specifically that of the Tohono O'odham Nation, affects the legal structure is a matter others are likely better to comment on. Do by all means engage the Tohono O'odham Nation on this matter if it's something you feel strongly about.--Labattblueboy (talk) 00:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The question at hand is copyright, not trademark. Commons permits trademarked images, provided they come with an appropriate free license (Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#TRADEM, Commons:Non-copyright_restrictions#Trademark_law). Intervex (talk) 02:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The question at hand is intellectual property. While the entity in question has a proven history of registering its intellectual property, there is no evidence of such registration in this instance.--Labattblueboy (talk) 06:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete All available evidence is that this flag was created in 2000 ("This new design appeared only in the year 2000." per [2], and that before then a streamer flag was used.) The flag is above Threshold of Originality for the USA, and there is no evidence of permission. Commons policy is Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle. If anybody has contradictory evidence that the flag is substantially older, do share. A flag created in 2000 does not need to be registered to be copyrighted in the USA. I am afraid I do not have the bandwidth to try and convince the Tohono O'odham for permission, but if somebody has that energy, have a look at Commons:Volunteer Response Team for email templates and the like. Intervex (talk) 02:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am asking for a courtesy deletion of this file, as I feel like I have stepped over the "Wikipedia:No_original_research" principle. There it is stated "This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not stated by the sources". In this file I have taken a list of genera from one source (Chase et al., 2015) and left out genera and updated the species numbers of the other genera according to a second source (Plants of the World Online). In retrospect I don't think this is acceptable. Conan Wolff (talk) 23:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accidently uploaded PNG file instead of JPG and I don't see a ware to amend the it. Twixister05 (talk) 23:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]