Talk:Arcee (Energon)

Frnech Dubbing

The French version of Arcee is dubbed by a man. Nobody could tell the difference. Is she still female in France, or is she a gender-swap? JW 19:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Protector E-7

Actually if you want to get specific about it, she shares a lot of design details with Elita One... --Rosicrucian^Talk 14:36, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

I agree on the Elita thing. The pink 'cups' on her jacket are a dead giveaway.

And I feel compelled to point out... the face on her jacket could represent:

1. Primus
2. A version of Generation 2 where Hot Rod remained supreme commander.

(I think the latter is more likely if the Alternity stuff was actually written by Ichikawa-kun. His distaste for the degree to which Primus and Unicron have grown to overhadow Trtansformers fiction is well-known. And arguably the entire 'point' of Alternity is to create a type of Multiversal story with super-dimensional being and and crisis-level hyperspace predators that are in no way at all related to Primus and Unicron.) -Derik 15:04, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Derik's got a point that the G2 version is a lot more likely than Primus. --Lonegamer78 15:15, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Now that we have her dimension of origin (she's specifically from the Super Link version of Energon) I think that changes the interpretation of what's on her jacket - perhaps she's affiliated with Team Rodimus (or whatever they were called)? did they have a symbol? Team Ironhide did... Hooper_X 11:57, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Believe Rodimus' crew used the burst of flames from his chest. They didn't wear it, but I do recall them having a flag.--Rosicrucian^Talk 12:04, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

If she's from the Super Link/Japan UT universe, shouldn't the continuity note at the top be adjusted? - SanityOrMadness 13:18, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

"Elita-7" or "Elita-Seven"

I should note that "seven" is written in katakana, and I personally prefer "Elita-7" because it's short and to the point. ;P --Lonegamer78 18:20, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

Personally, I'd go with "Elita Seven," myself, since (in addition to personal preference) G1 Elita spelled her number out and this character is clearly designed to emulate her, and the katakana spelled the number out rather than writing "7". - Chris McFeely 09:03, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Whichever works. --Lonegamer78 09:08, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Not only is "Seven" spelled out, but English "Seven" (Sebun) is spelled out. The fact that many Japanese Transformer names are not a translation and are actually English is not something that would be immediately obvious to a casual reader. At least, it took me a long time to figure that out. (Why would I possibly assume they spelled out seven in English?) Is there a way to improve communicating that to the reader? Is it important? - Starfield 16:55, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Where did the non-"Protector" name and home dimension come from? Sources would be nice. --M Sipher 09:44, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Yo. - Chris McFeely 10:34, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Could anybody add the kana spelling to the page? Would help in the romanization discussion. Geewunling 11:28, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

Rodimus face

Had a thought while I was out shopping today. For quite awhile in Binaltech fiction there was fan speculation that the Protector was Rodimus Prime, as that was his tech spec function. So, what I'm proposing is that the insignia on Elita Seven's jacket isn't a tie back to Energon Rodimus, but the insignia of the Protectors as a whole. As such, I think we ought to give it the usual treatment and put it up on the insignia page. I just figured before I forged ahead I'd check for consensus here.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:12, 21 November 2009 (EST)

That works for me. --ItsWalky 20:27, 21 November 2009 (EST)

Here's my best approximation, based off of the original Autobot symbol, and what I can discern from the pack-in comic.--Rosicrucian^Talk 20:54, 21 November 2009 (EST)

I'm not as good a graphic artist as you, but judging from the image on the Wiki, the logo should look something closer to this. --Detour 22:42, 21 November 2009 (EST)

Better now? I still see a panel line on the brow crest.--Rosicrucian^Talk 22:57, 21 November 2009 (EST)

I'm not seeing it, unless you're looking at other images from the comic... all I was going off of was the lone image of the insignia on Elita Seven's page. --Detour 22:58, 21 November 2009 (EST)

I'm mostly squinting at the pack-in comic itself, but if y'all say it's not there I'm not against taking it out.--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:04, 21 November 2009 (EST)

Alright, good now?--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:16, 21 November 2009 (EST)

He does seem to have a bigger chin. And I like the little hooks at the top corner of his eyes, if those are really there or just a smudge. - Starfield 23:32, 21 November 2009 (EST)

I like 'em too because they're actually on Rodimus' head, but I'm willing to accept I may be hallucinating them on this given comic.--Rosicrucian^Talk 23:41, 21 November 2009 (EST)

Identity

According to Alternity Black Megatron's text info, not only is E7 indeed from the Super Link-verse, but she's specifically the Omnicon Ariel in her 7th body. So theoretically, this should be merged with the Energon Arcee page...only apparently Alternity's dimensional IDs actually differentiate between the English and Japanese versions of the same series. Which raises all kinds of potential issues for character pages. --Swift 13:00, 18 December 2009 (EST)

I knew there had to be some connection Rodimus's crew! Yeah, need to merge this, but I don't think it creates any huge issues. - Chris McFeely 13:09, 18 December 2009 (EST)

Disambig

Does this page need some disambiguation with other uses of the term "Elita" and, if so, how would it be done? I've tried a few different ways and wasn't happy with any of them. Khajidha 13:32, 18 December 2009 (EST)

I think so. There is some way we should notify the readers of the Energon Arcee/Superlink Ariel/G1 Ariel/G1 Elita One/UT Elita Seven thing going on here. How to, I'm not quite sure. As it is, I'd just say to put a disamb3 to Elita One under the disamb3 Arcee banner. Geewunling 14:59, 18 December 2009 (EST)

But nobody is coming here to look for any variation of Elita One. —Interrobang 18:41, 18 December 2009 (EST)

But they are here looking for Elita Seven. Maybe it should be disambiguated, maybe not, but I just wanted to make sure. Khajidha 20:39, 18 December 2009 (EST)

Yes, which is why we have "Elita Seven" as a redirect. We do not need to assume our readers are retarded and are actually looking for any variation of "Elita One". —Interrobang 08:55, 21 December 2009 (EST)