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Baseball Between the Numbers: Why Everything You Know About the Game Is Wrong Hardcover – March 6, 2006
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- Print length496 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherBasic Books
- Publication dateMarch 6, 2006
- Grade level11 and up
- Reading age13 years and up
- Dimensions6.5 x 1.5 x 9.5 inches
- ISBN-100465005969
- ISBN-13978-0465005963
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- Publisher : Basic Books; 1st edition (March 6, 2006)
- Language : English
- Hardcover : 496 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0465005969
- ISBN-13 : 978-0465005963
- Reading age : 13 years and up
- Grade level : 11 and up
- Item Weight : 1.45 pounds
- Dimensions : 6.5 x 1.5 x 9.5 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #294,068 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #585 in Baseball (Books)
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About the author
Jonah Keri currently covers baseball for CBS Sports and Sports Illustrated. He is the host of The Jonah Keri Podcast, on the Nerdist network.
He is the author of "Up, Up, and Away: The Kid, the Hawk, Rock, Vladi, Pedro, le Grand Orange, Youppi!, the Crazy Business of Baseball, and the Ill-fated but Unforgettable Montreal Expos" (Random House Canada, 2014).
He is the author of the New York Times bestseller "The Extra 2%: How Wall Street Strategies Took a Major League Baseball Team from Worst to First" (ESPN Books/Ballantine, 2011). He also edited and co-authored "Baseball Between the Numbers" (Basic, 2006), and has contributed to many other books.
From 2011 to 2015 Jonah was the Lead Baseball Writer for Grantland. From 1999 to 2010 he covered the stock market for Investor's Business Daily. Jonah's writing has appeared in ESPN.com, SI.com, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Baseball Prospectus, FanGraphs.com, Bloomberg Sports, Montreal Gazette, and many other publications.
Jonah is a native of Montreal and currently lives in Denver. He profoundly hopes to see Tim Raines enter the Hall of Fame.
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The group I was in when I first started reading--newer to advanced statistics and looking to get more into how all the numbers work--will eat this book up. The best aspect of BBTN, however, is that it does not ignore what the game has been for so long, and still is to most people.
It is not a bunch of cold numbers or saying a player stinks because stat X is under Y, as if each guy is an answer to a third graders' math test--which is too often the impression people get of advanced stats, particularly among the non-sabermetric crowd. It's quite the opposite. Had somebody shown me concepts in math class--a few of which I recognize from school--and explained I could actually apply them to sports, you bet I would've been a heck of a lot more excited to go to math every day and probably actually understood the concepts.
Nobody is claiming these findings are gospel either. In many cases, they let the numbers themselves point out why a statistic is or is not repeatable. Or say flat out, that in certain cases it comes down to luck. This may seem to weaken the entire argument of why to use sabermetrics in the first place, but it is actually quite the opposite; understanding the weaknesses of your field will allow you to apply the findings more appropriately.
The most eye-opening sections are why the statistics shown with every batter on television are often poor gauges of performance. Many of these figures were developed at a time when the game was very different and while the game has changed, our ways of analyzing it has not (at least in the mainstream).
Each chapter seeks to answer a simple question: "Is David Ortiz a Clutch Hitter?" or "Is Joe Torre a Hall of Fame Manager?" While they seem simple, those questions encompass a great deal and each author does a solid job of explaining why they look at the figures they do to answer the questions. A side effect of which is training the readers to not only come up with their own questions, but figure out how to answer them. That is, if they are not too busy reading this book's sequel.
It's really an interesting book if you go into it with an open and analytical mind. Some of the conclusions may be controversial - for example, don't tell any New Yorker that Derek Jeter's actually a below average shortstop, a Pirates or Tigers fan that Jim Leyland didn't really do much to help his team, or an A's fan that Rickey Henderson's steals were mostly worthless! But reading through how the authors got to these conclusions is fascinating, and ultimately impossible to argue with. Math doesn't lie, and the statistics that back up these conclusions - while requiring a few more calculations - are no less factual than batting average or on-base percentage (OBP itself is a sabermetric stat!).
It would be easy for this to have been a dry, reductionist book, as you might expect from a bunch of mathemeticians. It's written by multiple authors and while it's true that some chapters are a little livelier than others, generally speaking everyone seems to realize they're writing about a game - and that game is supposed to be fun. This book exists because these people love baseball and have fun thinking about it, and thinking of different ways they can challenge conventional wisdom.
It's taken a while to overturn baseball's old guard, but many teams these days incorporate some level of sabermetric thinking into their team building and on-field strategy. Times are changing, and this book will help you understand why that pitcher's swinging away instead of bunting, why your favorite team doesn't have a "speed guy" in the leadoff spot, and why you shouldn't be too upset when a manager gets fired.
Maybe more than that, it'll leave you wondering why teams still do things that are mathematically proven to be self-destructive. (Usually it's because it's what the fans and media expect them to do.) Baseball still has a ways to go to catch up to its own science, but reading this book will literally put you ahead of the game.
I know those questions are off-topic, but I found myself thinking along those lines while reading "Baseball Between the Numbers" because I found it to be a groundbreaking work that would've been even better if some of the questions posed throughout had more staying power or covered a greater expanse of time. Some of the essays do this very well -- particularly the chapters on stadiums and re-development, on whether Barry Bonds is better than Babe Ruth, the value of the RBI, and five starters vs. four.
However, some of the essays show their age -- is David Ortiz a clutch hitter?, is A-Rod overpaid?, what causes Billy Beane's teams to struggle in the playoffs, etc. A lot of these questions are settled, or irrelevant 10 years later. I definitely recommend purchasing this and reading some of the more topical elements, but the work would benefit from a re-print with new material (which Baseball Prospectus kind of did in "Extra Innings," its newest publication).