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@ 2008-03-30 16:37 Vit Vomacko
2008-03-30 20:43 ` Philipp Riegger
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From: Vit Vomacko @ 2008-03-30 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gnap-dev
Hi,
I am quite interested in your GNAP SoC 2008 project. So let me introduce
myself:)
My name is Víťa Vomáčko (maybe some letters are strange to you:), 21
years old, from Czech Republic
I have experience with building embedded systems based on Gentoo
(experience 4+ years) - routers for wisp's . A lot of minimalizations,
hardening, filesystem protection, ram drives, monitoring of them,
dnsmasq, firewalls, shaping and also automation for it. I am also quite
interested in projects like vyatta and their integration. Currently I am
looking at embedded platforms like wrap, router board. I have also some
experience with GNAP but worked on my own solution ( 100MB distro,
openssh with hpn patchset instead of dropbear, full perl, python etc.)
I am studying University of economics, faculty of informatics and
statistics and also work part-time at Sun Microsystems CR, Systems-group
- ISV integration, but I will have a lot of free time for investigate
into SoC.
I have some ideas, based on José Alberto's, Philipp Riegger's and mine,
as a newcomer (may not be suitable for project, may be too long term ).
So please tell me what seems to be good and what is totally rubbish:D
* bug fixing (less bug, will report; cdrtools collision, a lot of
bugs opened)
* wrap,router board enhancements ( i will have direct access to it)
* glsa checks for your overlay (to be sure, that there is now
critical security bug in your gnap devices)
* overall upgrade of gnap core (new snapshot, gnap core..., move to
gnap 2.1 release and continue)
* interactive setup ( to be even easier to use for beginners,
answers some questions and build what is needed)
* CLI (inspired by vyatta project, would be nice to share code,
provides great management ability) and web interface for basic
changes (networking, firmware upgrades) (definitely try to use
and edit code from other similar projects, use existing frameworks)
* unionfs, support (I know that second guy would like to work on it)
*
* live formware upgrade
* use new catalyst (don't know exactly problems connected to it)
* extensions installation made easier (maybe to have basic
extensions available on the internet and automatically get them)
* look at cross compiling ( I have some experience, so know that its
difficult, so sth.that could be done in shorter terms)
* work on selected issues from Phillips's ideas (
http://archives.gentoo.org/gnap-dev/msg_01d6ef92bb66927018b4131462808391.xml
)
Definitely I'd like to continue after SoC finishes. SO since tomorrow is
deadline:( try to comment it asap, I will be very happy of your comments.
~vv
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* Re: [gnap-dev] student application/ideas for SoC 2008
2008-03-30 16:37 [gnap-dev] student application/ideas for SoC 2008 Vit Vomacko
@ 2008-03-30 20:43 ` Philipp Riegger
2008-03-30 23:18 ` Vit Vomacko
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From: Philipp Riegger @ 2008-03-30 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gnap-dev
On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 18:37 +0200, Vit Vomacko wrote:
> My name is Víťa Vomáčko (maybe some letters are strange to you:), 21
> years old, from Czech Republic
Nice. I'm from germany, but i have some friends in Czech Republic. I've
been on a trip to Prag, Brno and Vsetin last month.
> I have some ideas, based on José Alberto's, Philipp Riegger's and mine,
> as a newcomer (may not be suitable for project, may be too long term ).
> So please tell me what seems to be good and what is totally rubbish:D
>
> * bug fixing (less bug, will report; cdrtools collision, a lot of
> bugs opened)
This is great. I've been looking for a new bug fixing release for a long
long time.
> * wrap,router board enhancements ( i will have direct access to it)
This sounds great. I'm looking forward to hearing from you, i've always
wanted one of these toys!
> * glsa checks for your overlay (to be sure, that there is now
> critical security bug in your gnap devices)
> * overall upgrade of gnap core (new snapshot, gnap core..., move to
> gnap 2.1 release and continue)
> * interactive setup ( to be even easier to use for beginners,
> answers some questions and build what is needed)
I was always thinking about stabilizing the non-interactive part more,
but i'm looking forward to hearing your ideas.
> * CLI (inspired by vyatta project, would be nice to share code,
> provides great management ability) and web interface for basic
> changes (networking, firmware upgrades) (definitely try to use
> and edit code from other similar projects, use existing frameworks)
Do you know Mikroconf, which has been written for last years SoC? It's
not included anywhere, i think, but it sounds promising. Flexible
modular design,...
> * unionfs, support (I know that second guy would like to work on it)
With this you mean: / on squashfs, writable with unionfs and some local
storage?
> * live formware upgrade
Ca you elaborate on this? Are you talking about the whole image, only
applications on it, upgreade with or without downtime?
> * use new catalyst (don't know exactly problems connected to it)
Mostly, that portage has to be newer than the one in the current
seedstage shipped with gnap 2.0.
> * extensions installation made easier (maybe to have basic
> extensions available on the internet and automatically get them)
Prebuilt, or config files? Well, for routerboards and maybe x86 prebuilt
could make sense.
> * look at cross compiling ( I have some experience, so know that its
> difficult, so sth.that could be done in shorter terms)
That's what i did not have when i tried it last year. I would really
like to read your suggestions on this.
> * work on selected issues from Phillips's ideas (
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gnap-dev/msg_01d6ef92bb66927018b4131462808391.xml
> )
>
> Definitely I'd like to continue after SoC finishes. SO since tomorrow is
> deadline:( try to comment it asap, I will be very happy of your comments.
I was out for the weekend, so i could not comment sooner. And BaSS
(Jose) seems to be not that responsive at the moment. Anyway, i hope you
apply and i hope they take you and i hope, i can help you in any way.
>From what you wrote about your experience, this is unlikely. :-)
Philipp
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* Re: [gnap-dev] student application/ideas for SoC 2008
2008-03-30 20:43 ` Philipp Riegger
@ 2008-03-30 23:18 ` Vit Vomacko
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From: Vit Vomacko @ 2008-03-30 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gnap-dev
Hi, nice to have some feedback :)
> On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 18:37 +0200, Vit Vomacko wrote:
>
>> My name is Víťa Vomáčko (maybe some letters are strange to you:), 21
>> years old, from Czech Republic
>>
>
> Nice. I'm from germany, but i have some friends in Czech Republic. I've
> been on a trip to Prag, Brno and Vsetin last month.
>
>
I live in center of Prague, have windows/no linux/ to Jewish cemetery:)
So let me invite you for a beer, or two, or more:))
>> I have some ideas, based on José Alberto's, Philipp Riegger's and mine,
>> as a newcomer (may not be suitable for project, may be too long term ).
>> So please tell me what seems to be good and what is totally rubbish:D
>>
>> * bug fixing (less bug, will report; cdrtools collision, a lot of
>> bugs opened)
>>
>
> This is great. I've been looking for a new bug fixing release for a long
> long time.
>
>
>> * wrap,router board enhancements ( i will have direct access to it)
>>
>
> This sounds great. I'm looking forward to hearing from you, i've always
> wanted one of these toys!
>
>
>> * glsa checks for your overlay (to be sure, that there is now
>> critical security bug in your gnap devices)
>> * overall upgrade of gnap core (new snapshot, gnap core..., move to
>> gnap 2.1 release and continue)
>> * interactive setup ( to be even easier to use for beginners,
>> answers some questions and build what is needed)
>>
>
> I was always thinking about stabilizing the non-interactive part more,
> but i'm looking forward to hearing your ideas.
>
>
>> * CLI (inspired by vyatta project, would be nice to share code,
>> provides great management ability) and web interface for basic
>> changes (networking, firmware upgrades) (definitely try to use
>> and edit code from other similar projects, use existing frameworks)
>>
>
> Do you know Mikroconf, which has been written for last years SoC? It's
> not included anywhere, i think, but it sounds promising. Flexible
> modular design,...
>
Yes I took a look at it and it looks interesting, I would try to make it
"more standarized", it would be nice to use it with ziptie.org (become
part of ZONA) or Rancid. But it's difficult to estime needed time.
>
>> * unionfs, support (I know that second guy would like to work on it)
>>
>
> With this you mean: / on squashfs, writable with unionfs and some local
> storage?
>
>
Yes something like that, it would greatly move our project!
>> * live formware upgrade
>>
>
> Ca you elaborate on this? Are you talking about the whole image, only
> applications on it, upgreade with or without downtime?
>
>
Downtime would be probably needed for core system upgrades, but
applications could be upgraded without it.
>> * use new catalyst (don't know exactly problems connected to it)
>>
>
> Mostly, that portage has to be newer than the one in the current
> seedstage shipped with gnap 2.0.
>
>
>> * extensions installation made easier (maybe to have basic
>> extensions available on the internet and automatically get them)
>>
>
> Prebuilt, or config files? Well, for routerboards and maybe x86 prebuilt
> could make sense.
>
I thought about prebuilt, in cooperation with live upgrade, would be a
cool feature.
>
>> * look at cross compiling ( I have some experience, so know that its
>> difficult, so sth.that could be done in shorter terms)
>>
>
> That's what i did not have when i tried it last year. I would really
> like to read your suggestions on this.
>
>
This will need a lot of digging into it...
>> * work on selected issues from Phillips's ideas (
>> http://archives.gentoo.org/gnap-dev/msg_01d6ef92bb66927018b4131462808391.xml
>> )
>>
>> Definitely I'd like to continue after SoC finishes. SO since tomorrow is
>> deadline:( try to comment it asap, I will be very happy of your comments.
>>
>
> I was out for the weekend, so i could not comment sooner. And BaSS
> (Jose) seems to be not that responsive at the moment. Anyway, i hope you
> apply and i hope they take you and i hope, i can help you in any way.
> >From what you wrote about your experience, this is unlikely. :-)
>
> Philipp
>
>
Wow fantastic to here about this kind of help, hope to work on it and
collaborate!
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