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Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 04:59, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Andy Eothan (talk) 06:53, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
creating properties
editHi!
It seems that you have tried to create a property "State Library of New South Wales artist ID" at Q63701737. In Wikidata we have a distinction between items and properties, and what you created is an item, so you will not be able to use it as a property as you probably expected. To get this created as a property, you need to propose it: see Wikidata:Property_proposal. If you need any help with that process, let me know.
Keep up the good work! − Pintoch (talk) 10:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi - thanks for the positive feedback - yes you are right after creating this I realised I probably need to create a State Library of New South Wales Object ID property which can encompass manuscripts, paintings, photographs, drawings, letters as all of these use the same url format and perhaps another for published materials ID as this uses a different format? I will try to get something together to lodge in the next week or so but it would be great of I could run it by you first to see what you think? I was thinking of using The Met object ID (P3634) perhaps without the same constraints? Do you know how I can request the State Library of New South Wales artist ID be deleted? Cheers Geoff Eothan (talk) 05:20, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Found and have requested deletion of Q63701737 thanks. Eothan (talk) 05:38, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Great! Yes I can help you shape up your property proposal if needed. Just ping me with
{{Ping}}(otherwise I will likely not see your messages). − Pintoch (talk) 15:58, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- Great! Yes I can help you shape up your property proposal if needed. Just ping me with
- Hi - sorry this took a little while longer than I thought but below is the bare bones for the SL property any suggested changes welcomed have put notes next to the things I'm not sure about? Thanks.
State Library of New South Wales Unpublished Item Property An identifier for an artwork, photograph, or unpublished item in the State Library of New South Wales collection.
Statements maintained by State Library of New South Wales (Q6133813)
Country Australia (Q408)
source website for the property https://search.sl.nsw.gov.au/primo-explore/search?vid=SLNSW
Allowed values [1-9]\d{0,7}
Formatter URL http://archival.sl.nsw.gov.au/Details/archive/$1
format constraint format as a regular expression [1-9][0-9]{0,5} - not sure about this line?
Example 1 Blue Mountains, ca. 1815-1816, watercolour drawings by John William Lewin → 110318770 Example 2 Darlinghurst Gaol, 1891, watercolour by H. L. Bertrand → 110327104 Example 3 Dr William Bland, ca. 1845, daguerreotype, G. B. Goodman → 110000167
External links https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/
Planned use reference and permanent url for object in Institutions catalogue
Number of IDs in source - not sure about this line?
Expected completeness - not sure about this line?
Constraint status - not sure about this line?
mandatory constraint - not sure about this line?
Syntax clarification numeric string, 1 to 9 digits (English)
P195
editI see that you're using collection (P195) to indicate that the Library of New South Wales owns a copy of a particular publication. That's not what this property is meant for. It's intended for unique objects such as paintaings, sculptures, manuscripts, and the like. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Eothan (talk) 03:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC) Interestingly for very rare publication they can be, and often are, considered unique objects, like Shakespeare's first folio, as they often differ in printing, annotation, and in hand-colouring of pictures. In this case these differences are probably minor but I thought given the rarity of surviving copies it would be in the best interests of researchers to know which institutions hold copies? Can you suggest another property for conveying this? Thanks.