Property talk:P4023
Latest comment: 2 months ago by Sotho Tal Ker in topic different ID for en/de
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German Football Association person ID
identifier for players, manager and referees in the datacenter of the German Football Association (Deutscher Fußball-Bund, DFB)
identifier for players, manager and referees in the datacenter of the German Football Association (Deutscher Fußball-Bund, DFB)
| Associated item | German Football Association (Q154191) | ||||||||||||
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| Applicable "stated in" value | no label (Q105070980) | ||||||||||||
| Data type | External identifier | ||||||||||||
| Corresponding template | Template:DFB (Q42363984) | ||||||||||||
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| Allowed values | [^ ]+[^/]+ | ||||||||||||
| Example | Bastian Schweinsteiger (Q44298) → 3201 bastian-schweinsteiger Dzsenifer Marozsán (Q450592) → 106623 dzsenifer-marozsan Carsten Sträßer (Q123844) → 9225 carsten-strasser Uwe Rösler (Q566127) → 28733 uwe-rosler Bibiana Steinhaus (Q60321) → 48991 bibiana-steinhaus-webb | ||||||||||||
| Source | https://datencenter.dfb.de/datencenter/personen | ||||||||||||
| Formatter URL | https://datencenter.dfb.de/en/profile/$1 https://datencenter.dfb.de/profil/$1 https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/$1/trainerin https://www.dfb.de/en/data-center/people/$1/referee https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/$1/trainer https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/$1/schiedsrichter https://www.dfb.de/en/data-center/people/$1/coach https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/$1/spieler https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/$1/spielerin https://www.dfb.de/en/data-center/people/$1/player https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/$1/schiedsrichterin | ||||||||||||
| Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P4023 (Q30127395) | ||||||||||||
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)Item “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”: Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Item P31, hourly updated report, search, SPARQLItem “occupation (P106): association football player (Q937857), association football manager (Q628099), association football referee (Q859528), futsal player (Q18515558)”: Items with this property should also have “occupation (P106): association football player (Q937857), association football manager (Q628099), association football referee (Q859528), futsal player (Q18515558)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Item P106, hourly updated report, search List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Format, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Format, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Scope, SPARQL
Item “sport (P641): association football (Q2736)”: Items with this property should also have “sport (P641): association football (Q2736)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4023#Item P641, search, SPARQL
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IDs are reused
editI just want to document this here: The ID 103038 was used until the weekend for Klaus Peschel (Q1745544) (see Google Cache). I wrote to the DFB on saturday that Peschel has two IDs. Today I discover that this ID was reused for Fabien Robert (Q2712686) (without sending any reply to me). I call this very bad data keeping. Steak (talk) 14:21, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
different ID for en/de
editNowadays that DFB uses text IDs, the german and english profile IDs are different when the name has an Umlaut. I. e.:
- German
https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/'''thomas-hoerster'''/spieler - English
https://www.dfb.de/en/data-center/people/'''thomas-horster'''/player
or:
- German
https://www.dfb.de/datencenter/personen/'''rudi-voeller'''/spieler - English
https://www.dfb.de/en/data-center/people/'''rudi-voller'''/player
How to handle this? If the number ID is still existing there's no problem, but how to find out the number as it's no part of the link anymore? --Hadibe (talk) 10:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- The number can be found out by looking at the source code. For example, for this profile, in the source code it says "data-indexer-attributes="P_352879", therefore, the ID is 352879. Steak (talk) 12:25, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- If there is a working numeric for every entry, it should be changed to it and a format constraint added. At the moment it is a really bad mix between German, Engish and numeric identifiers, resulting in overflown maintanance categories. LockaPicker (talk) 19:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Association football LockaPicker (talk) 19:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Names with an umlaut added from the german url won't work on the default formatter URL which uses english as standard. So the person's name as it is in the URL is not an unique identifier. For persons with identical names the numerical ID is appended, so that should be unique. If there are no objections, I will make the numerical ID the default standard. German Wikipedia has to figure out on its own, if they want to keep using names or switch to numeric IDs. --Sotho Tal Ker (talk) 14:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- If there is a working numeric for every entry, it should be changed to it and a format constraint added. At the moment it is a really bad mix between German, Engish and numeric identifiers, resulting in overflown maintanance categories. LockaPicker (talk) 19:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)