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Property talk:P3530

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Amadalvarez in topic Constraints

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par
predetermined number of strokes a 0-handicap golfer should require to complete a hole, a round or a tournament
Descriptionthe predetermined number of strokes that a scratch golfer should require to complete a hole, a round, or a tournament
Representspar (Q2304774)
Data typeQuantity
Template parameterpar1 at en:Template:Infobox Golf Facility
Domain
According to this template: golf course/tournament
According to statements in the property:
golf course (Q1048525) or golf tournament (Q2990946)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values
According to this template: integer
According to statements in the property:
1 ≤ 𝓧 ≤ 400
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed unitsnot applicable
ExampleRiviera Country Club (Q7338863) → 71
Augusta National Golf Club (Q765780) → 72
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P3530 (Q30128061)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total294
Main statement29299.3% of uses
Qualifier20.7% of uses
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Range from “1” to “400”: values should be in the range from “1” to “400”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3530#Range
Type “golf course (Q1048525), golf tournament (Q2990946): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “golf course (Q1048525), golf tournament (Q2990946)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3530#Type Q1048525, Q2990946, SPARQL
No bounds: values can't have any bounds (e.g. 1 not 1±0) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3530#No Bounds, SPARQL
Units: “novalue”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3530#Units
Integer: values should be integers (ie. they shouldn't have a fractional part) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3530#integer, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3530#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Constraints

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@Thierry Caro, GZWDer: Hi. I'm trying to use this property in tournament items to show the result of winner. See Q104561689#P1346, for instance.

I tried to put P3530= -6, showing the final difference with tournament par, as we can see in en:2021_U.S._Open_(golf)#Final_round, but it gave 2 constraints: to be negative & to be used as qualifier. Then, I tried to inform the par for tournament as property with P3530=284 (and be able to calculate the strokes under par) and then, a constraint to be out of scope (1-100) appears.

So, what should be the better ontology solution? Option a) accept negatives and to be used as qualifiers; option b) increase the limit of par > 100 in order to fit the valid values for a tournament?. thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 17:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm no specialist of this. I cannot really help you. Thierry Caro (talk) 22:44, 28 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
@CroMagnonMan: Could you, please, give us a suggestion ?. Thanks,Amadalvarez (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
@GZWDer, CroMagnonMan:Without any other input in two weeks, I choose option b, because it requires fewer and less conflicting changes. I'll increase it to 400 (4 rounds x 100 max.). Any further comment(with ping, please), will be welcome. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 12:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
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