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Latest comment: 6 months ago by Schwede66 in topic Place/Location of death

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place of death
most specific known (e.g. city instead of country, or hospital instead of city) death location of a person, animal or fictional character
DescriptionPlace where a person died
Representsplace of death (Q18658526)
Data typeItem
Template parameter|death_place= in en:Template:Infobox person
Domainhuman (Q5), organism (Q7239), abstract being (Q15619164), fictional character (Q95074), mythical character (Q4271324), human whose existence is disputed (Q21070568), legendary figure (Q13002315), fictional organism (Q30017383) or group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed valuesplace (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Usage notesUse the most specific location known. Use the city instead of country, or hospital instead of the city.
ExampleRené Descartes (Q9191)Stockholm (Q1754)
Sung Jae-gi (Q4688112)Mapo Bridge (Q624409)
Richard Dürr (Q2002681)Lausanne University Hospital (Q2945783)
Captain Nemo (Q1046049)Pacific Ocean (Q98)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533342)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P20 (Q20116963)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q32764771)
<complementary property>place of birth (P19)
See alsodate of death (P570), place of burial (P119)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total1,486,696distinct valuesratio
Main statement1,467,21698.7% of uses135,20710.9
Qualifier19,3711.3% of uses
Reference109<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Type Q5, Q7239, Q15619164, Q95074, Q4271324, Q21070568, Q13002315, Q30017383, Q16334295, SPARQL
Item “date of death (P570): Items with this property should also have “date of death (P570)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Item P570, SPARQL
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (place of death (P20)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Zef Eisenberg (Q48699519)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Contemporary, SPARQL
Single best value: this property generally contains a single value. If there are several, one would have preferred rank (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Louis Seel (Q64605023)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#single best value, SPARQL
Citation needed: the property must have at least one reference (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#citation needed
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Scope, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P20#Entity types
 
Items with P20 = "no value" (P31=Q5)
People die somewhere (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item WHERE { ?item p:P20/a wdno:P20 ; wdt:P31 wd:Q5 } LIMIT 100
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P20#Items with P20 = "no value" (P31=Q5)
 
Dead in jail, with data missing
(Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item { ?item wdt:P20 ?locationDead. ?locationDead wdt:P31 wd:Q40357. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P2632 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1196 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P106 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1399 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P119 [] }. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P570 [] }. }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P20#Dead in jail, with data missing
 
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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Is this useful?

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I appreciate that this is the fact that appears on a death certificate, but does it really tell us anything? For example, someone meeting their demise on a day trip to Spain - (Born:London, Died:Torremolinos). Their data now suggests they had emigrated!? There is nothing in place for "residence at time of death". Periglio (talk) 10:11, 24 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

It is useful for disambiguation. Many sources keep track of dates and places of birth and death, so when matching people it is good to know. --Jarekt (talk) 20:28, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

added P969 (P969) as an allowed qualifier

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... to let people know of this additional qualifier.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

I've also added coordinate location (P625) as a permitted qualifier - we occasionally know where someone died by coordinates rather than a formal address (particularly if it was at sea). Example at John Gane (Q26218387). Andrew Gray (talk) 14:10, 27 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Death of person/item about person

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Please see Property_talk:P3342#Link_"death_of_(person)"_to_item_about_(person).
--- Jura 12:12, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Too narrow

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I've edited Cesare Bossi (Q15079873). He died while in prison, but P20 doesn't like that. People can die anywhere: in an elevator in a department store, while conducting an orchestra in a concert hall, while performing on stage. Thus I think P20 has to allow for a much broader interpretation of place of death. - Kosboot (talk) 15:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I agree I added battle (Q178561) as Template:Q21510865 as I said in another discussion I feel we need to be able to support mobile phones as i inputs devices and Wikidata should answer in what window lived or died a person see video / discussion were I spoke about this Wikidata:Property_proposal/place_of_resident_registration_at_death - Salgo60 (talk) 10:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Place/Location of death

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Thanks to all for recognizing my previous query and revising the property that now allows that one can die in all sorts of places. But now I'm wondering does the property need a specific geographic location? In the case above, Bossi died in King's Bench Prison which was located in London. Does there also need to be a property "geographic location of death", or does the specific building function also as a geographic locator? - Kosboot (talk) 13:51, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

This property is intended to be some specific geographic location. I don't think we can use it like for "prison". Where is concensus for this? Probably some qualifier would be better, or a new property. --Infovarius (talk) 01:10, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Allan Hubbard (Q4730709) died in a rescue helicopter while being transferred from one hospital to another. This property allows you to die at sea (Q55438959) or in orbit (Q4130), but not in flight (Q52932736). Should we fix that? Schwede66 (talk) 04:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

added applies to name of object (P8338) as an allowed qualifier

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Qualifier added to indicate the name of the location at the date of death if it has since changed (like an hospital building which was later reconverted). Obviously the name should be among those listed on the place entity page (and ideally it could be deduced if those names have an associated known time span) --FoeNyx (talk) 15:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

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