Storage increase in laptops:
Storage increase in laptops:
Posted Jun 26, 2008 11:36 UTC (Thu) by Duncan (guest, #6647)In reply to: Storage increase in laptops: by ekj
Parent article: The Kernel Hacker's Bookshelf: Ultimate Physical Limits of Computation
However, there's another dimension that you've failed to figure in, that of overall computer size. It turns out that at least for the past 25-50 years (the 50 years earlier measured, or the 25 here) at least, we've found the practical benefits of overall computer miniaturization beneficial as well, such that in practice they've absorbed some of those OOMs you mention. It's the oft pointed out main-frame (room size) > mini-computer (large appliance size) > desktop (medium appliance size) > laptop (small appliance size) > handheld/umpc > cell-phone > watch... trend. As storage and computation increases, we've chosen to trade off an OOM every decade or so to graduate to the next smaller sized unit. If the per-decade size generation trend continues, normal people won't be using laptops anymore in 25 or even, really, 10 years, as we'll downshift a size or two or three instead. Just as trends indicate people are now switching to laptops instead of desktops and UMPCs instead of laptops, because the smaller size now has more power than the larger size did a few years previously and it's all the power really needed at that usage point, a decade from now, computers the size (and likely cost as well) of today's remotes/MP3-players/cell-phones will be the norm (low/high-end), while packing the computing power of today's dual-quad-core servers. OTOH, we're up against the wall of the human body's I/O limitations already, probably the reason we didn't migrate smaller several years ago, when the computing power of a desktop first exceeded that really necessary for office applications and the like. Some people just like a full sized keyboard and a nice sized display, and that human interface is *NOT* shrinking with Moore's law, unfortunately. For decades, Science Fiction's answer has been change the interface, voice recognition and eye-glasses displays, with direct neural tap interfaces predicted beyond that, but the required AI and materials science hasn't really made that first leap practical as yet, tho it /is/ tantalizingly close... but we've thought that for over a decade, as well. Still, the keyboard and large external display as human I/O method is simply going to have to give if we're to graduate down below the UMPC level. Or maybe we'll end up with ubiquitous built-in keyboard/display/Internet units everywhere, and plugin/wireless-in our multi-terabyte-storage-multi-cored-USB-thumb-drive-sized "personal computer" everywhere we go, much as folks are doing with the thumb-drives themselves today? Or, just perhaps, the just-a-few-years long trend of actually shrinking cost will become the dominant factor going forward, and those now $400 UMPCs like the Eee and friends will be $30-50 or even <$10, while containing the power and storage of today's big-drive quad-core desktop/servers, but with the permanent data stored "in the cloud" and with I/O to ubiquitous permanent displays/keyboards where needed as mentioned above, so the individual units become disposable, like the digital watches one can now buy in the dollar store. I really do think that the average person's usage really is being met now, thus the focus on smaller but more important CHEAPER we are seeing, and that that fact is not going to change -- UNLESS some "killer app" like truly practical general purpose (not limited purpose/vocab as we see now) voice recognition and hidef spectacles displays suddenly appear. If /that/ happens, then we'll see the drive to smaller (but with whatever resources are necessary to drive the voice recognition AI) reassert itself over cheaper, down to the point they can be embedded in the eye-glasses themselves. Since such a practical general purpose voice recognition AI, should it appear, is likely to be fairly resource intensive for even today's multi-core desktops, the process of miniaturizing the hardware (and power requirements) to the watch-battery size point, for embedding in those spectacles, is going to take a fair bit of that 25 years, anyway. Beyond that... well, we'll just have to see where that neuromanceresqe "jacking in" tech is, at that point. Duncan
Posted Jun 26, 2008 13:44 UTC (Thu)
by ekj (guest, #1524)
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Storage increase in laptops:
That's true. You get a 7oom quicker computer for $5000 now, compared to a similar sum of money
(inflation discounted) 25 years ago.
But people don't BUY those. They buy $500 - $1000 computers instead, and spend some extra on
getting small rather than powerful at that. (laptop-hds are much more expensive pro GB than
desktop-hds)
It's already all in the IO. I've got one 17" laptop and one 12", the difference isn't in the
power (it's there, but I rarely care) but in the fact that the 17" is just better if I need a
lot of screen pixels or a lot of physical screen-size.