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     1	We would like to thank all the reviewers for their comments.
     2	
     3	Reviewer1: ==========
     4	
     5	R1a: Users of LDA face many design choices and there is no
     6	guidance in the SE literature on how to make those choices.
     7	Our method automates those choices thus enabling
     8	reproducibility. As reviewer2 says "The paper is a nice
     9	contribution to text processing, and will doubtless be
    10	appreciated by the non-trivial number of LDA fans in SE".
    11	
    12	Also, we think that topic contents, as reported to users, is
    13	vitally important. Say a developer needs a guidance
    14	regarding coding standards and off-the-shelf (untuned) LDA
    15	study has identified this topic as being more defect prone.
    16	Given our instability results, we know this topic to be
    17	unstable:
    18	
    19	arrai node order iter collect tree class object instanc
    20	interfac static.
    21	
    22	Suppose "class object instance" was missing then developers
    23	would wrongly believe bugs are an algorithm-level issue and
    24	not a higher-level system class problem.
    25	
    26	R1b: Your comment on "the same crank being turned again"
    27	confuses us somewhat. We have been using these tools for
    28	years, with no guidance on tuning. We find that now we can
    29	tune them and those tunings change the results. Yes,
    30	previously we have shown that tuning matters for
    31	**supervised defect prediction**. But here we are working on
    32	**unsupervised text mining**. This is such a fundamentally
    33	different task that it surely required to check the effects
    34	of tuning, totally afresh.
    35	
    36	Further, as seen in https://goo.gl/OdzsVC, our stability
    37	methods greatly improves classification accuracy. So tuning
    38	not only improves stability and reproducibility, it also
    39	aids analysis. Topic stability is important!
    40	
    41	Reviewer2: ===========
    42	
    43	Thanks for editorial notes-- will fix!
    44	
    45	R2a: Regarding credibility: We agree with you that this is a
    46	difficult issue. Humans would agree or disagree with our
    47	conclusions. And if the latter, would that be due to memory
    48	limitations (we can process 500MB of text, human can process
    49	far less).
    50	
    51	R2b: Regarding impact on any downstream task- see
    52	https://goo.gl/OdzsVC.
    53	
    54	Reviewer3: ==========
    55	
    56	R3a: Conclusions need more comments; paper needs careful
    57	editorial work. This will be fixed in final draft.
    58	
    59	R3b: Regarding Binkley paper. We should have referenced it
    60	(our mistake). But note that some of the parameters he
    61	mentions (e.g. burn-in rate) were not found by him to be
    62	important (p31: "the same general pattern emerges: a
    63	differing initial explosion and then arrival at the same
    64	final distribution."). In fact, earlier drafts of this paper
    65	explored many more options (the Binkley set) and we found
    66	that k,\alpha, \beta were most critical so just explored
    67	those. Also note that this paper does what Binkley does not-
    68	quickly auto-tune the parameters per data set.
    69	
    70	R3c: As to making Binkley-style general recommendations, we
    71	think our Figs8,9,10 indicate that at such generalities
    72	could be misleading for any specific data sets. So our
    73	"general recommendation" must be to "repeat tuning (with
    74	DEs) for each new data set".
    75	
    76	R3d: Regarding impact on downstream processing- the answer

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