Feedback on version 3 of the app #365

ungive · 2025-03-30T10:41:47Z

Hello, I just updated to version 3.0.1 and would like to give some feedback.

Firstly I want to thank you for developing this app, I absolutely love it! It's great to see it being maintained and getting some love.

Unfortunately though, this new update comes with several issues for me:

The new swiping actions are more convoluted. I have to swipe at least a specific amount before the action is triggered. The old swiping actions were much simpler to me.
I can't tell if I'm in a break or not by the colour of the timer. Previously the break timer was grey, now it is the same colour as the timer when you're working. I find the new icon above the timer distracting.
I can't pause breaks anymore, yet I can add a minute to the break timer. That seems counter-intuitive and removes functionality that was previously there. Why remove the ability to pause breaks?
I cannot revert to version 2 with my backup from version 3. Version 2 claims it was successfully imported, but my data is not actually imported. I know that version 3 is a breaking change that quite likely involved changes to the configuration format as well, but I'm a bit disappointed that I have no way of reverting to version 2 now. I would really appreciate it if version 2 could get an update to read v3 backups or CSV files.
I went back to version 3 because of this and my labels are gone from the label selector in the main screen. They are visible in the settings though.

Version 3 is usable for me, it's a bit of getting used to, but these are the things that stood out to me.

adrcotfas · 2025-03-30T11:14:23Z

The new swiping actions are more convoluted. I have to swipe at least a specific amount before the action is triggered. The old swiping actions were much simpler to me.

Quite a few users complained about the swipe actions not being intuitive enough or easy to act by mistake. I'm open for suggestions here. I'll try to improve on this in future releases.

I can't tell if I'm in a break or not by the colour of the timer. Previously the break timer was grey, now it is the same colour as the timer when you're working. I find the new icon above the timer distracting.

I'll consider bringing that back.

I can't pause breaks anymore, yet I can add a minute to the break timer. That seems counter-intuitive and removes functionality that was previously there. Why remove the ability to pause breaks?

Others complained about it. This will be back in 3.0.3.

I cannot revert to version 2 with my backup from version 3. Version 2 claims it was successfully imported, but my data is not actually imported. I know that version 3 is a breaking change that quite likely involved changes to the configuration format as well, but I'm a bit disappointed that I have no way of reverting to version 2 now. I would really appreciate it if version 2 could get an update to read v3 backups or CSV files.

Hopefully you find the upcoming updates in v3 better than v2. I'm not supporting v2 anymore.

chidniu · 2025-03-30T12:00:46Z

In addition to pausing a break, it would be nice if there was an option to skip the break and carry over the rest of the time to the next break (which would be in the vein of the more flexible count-up mode).

Jaaaarne · 2025-03-30T13:19:31Z

I cannot revert to version 2 with my backup from version 3.

Thanks for the warning, ungive. I was about to try and revert back to v.2. I will have to think hard whether I'm ready to manually re-enter stats from at least the recent 3 months, though. The new immovable default tag is seriously getting on my nerves.

adrcotfas, would it be possible to either be able to remove the new default tag, or at least make it editable? Currently it breaks all my naming conventions (all my tags start with capital letters), not to mention I have no use for it the way it is named (in my Italian localisation I now have a tag called "predefinito", thank you very much, what?)

The new stats screen is breathtaking, indeed. :) Is there a way to turn off pause count? I realise there are scenarios where this kind of stats would be valuable, but being able to turn it off would be convenient. I, for one, didn't expect to see them counted and had to manually remove them from the timeline.

Also seconding ungive on the swiping actions. The amount of gesture I've gotten used to over the years is not enough anymore. Now it has to be a loooong swipe to work. I use the timer mainly on a 8'' tablet, and the swipe takes about 1/4 of a screen. In absolute numbers it's much more screen ground than on a phone, I have to say. :)

Also, what about the pre-notification signals? Have they been dropped for good? I was kind of hoping for pre-notifications on pause, but now they are gone altogether. Not a show-stopper, of course, still curious.

Thank you for your work. :) I really appreciate having this app.

adrcotfas · 2025-03-30T13:27:21Z

The new stats screen is breathtaking, indeed. :) Is there a way to turn off pause count? I realise there are scenarios where this kind of stats would be valuable, but being able to turn it off would be convenient. I, for one, didn't expect to see them counted and had to manually remove them from the timeline.

I'll put that on my TODO list

Also seconding ungive on the swiping actions. The amount of gesture I've gotten used to over the years is not enough anymore. Now it has to be a loooong swipe to work. I use the timer mainly on a 8'' tablet, and the swipe takes about 1/4 of a screen. In absolute numbers it's much more screen ground than on a phone, I have to say. :)

My bad, I haven't really used the app on a tablet but I understand your pain.
I'll think about something for the next releases because I'm not really satisfied with the current dial UI.

Also, what about the pre-notification signals? Have they been dropped for good? I was kind of hoping for pre-notifications on pause, but now they are gone altogether. Not a show-stopper, of course, still curious.

That feature was introduced to allow users some time to their in progress timer in case they felt that they needed more time.
Starting with v3 I removed that because now idle time is not lost. After one minute of idle time, you'll see a switch in the "finished session" dialog asking if you want to include that too.
There's also the count-up mode for more flexibility.

adrcotfas · 2025-03-30T13:30:36Z

You'll find some of the issues addressed here fixed in 3.0.3.
Please create new and more specific issues if needed.

Jaaaarne · 2025-03-30T14:26:01Z

That feature was introduced to allow users some time to their in progress timer in case they felt that they needed more time.

What I was talking about was a possibility of pre-notifications for pauses. It's not about needing more time in the work session, but rather more about having a bit of a warning about the break ending soon when you're not looking at the device. The only way around this is always starting work sessions manually, which is too relaxing, imo. This way 5 minute breaks tend to turn into 15 minutes etc. :)

But I see that it's not in the design. That's okay. :)

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