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Not sure who gets notified of this, so tagging @davidweichiang @danielgildea @mbollmann @akoehn. |
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Everyone who has subscribed to new issues gets notified, which at least includes me :-) |
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I didn't get notified here before getting tagged, and I get notified for all new issues 🤔 |
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Can you clarify what the new policy would be? |
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I made this explicit in #1874. |
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We take the PDF as authoritative, and process metadata corrections without question. I think we do not allow authors to be added or removed, however, without external corroboration or permission. |
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I am fine with allowing metadata changes to match the PDF, but not other changes. Additionally, we should publicize the change and make organizers aware that it is their responsibility that the PDFs are correct. |
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Publication chairs ensuring PDF matches metadata - Any thoughts on how this can be implemented at scale for large venues? For SemEval we sought to achieve this by (a) adding several checkboxes to the camera-ready submission form to ask authors to check that author info matches the PDF, and (b) deputizing 2-3 student volunteers as publication assistants to go through the proceedings and look for issues. Not sure what would be appropriate for a conference with an order of magnitude more papers. |
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FTR, I dug up the list of questions:
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I agree with @akoehn that this is not our problem. Conferences themselves are perfectly capable of closing this loophole, and it makes more sense that they bear the costs incurred by their own policies. Most of the corrections we process are harmless, and us enforcing the policy is adding a lot of friction to this process. |
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Is sanity-checking the final version PDF not part of the publication pipeline anyway? I've received e-mails from pub chairs telling me that my final version violated some page margins, or had a page break they wanted removed. Surely the author names could be checked as part of that process? |
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I doubt it. It's a time-consuming process, with the things to check only growing. For example, when I was pub chair in 2013 for NAACL, we added a manual check that figures were B&W-readable, and went through for margin violations. aclpubcheck is making some aspects of this easier, but there are also a lot of papers these days, especially for main conference proceedings. These policies tend to be created without much thought for enforcement or the costs imposed, IMO. |
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I would just say that this is not our problem. The conferences only need to check this if they want to have control over the author list. As we had zero cases where the change request was rejected, I don't see why we should have all the bureaucracy on our side. |
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A while back, we instituted a policy requiring authors to get permission from workshop or conference chairs in order to change any author information on papers. This was a blanket policy adopted in response to an ACL policy not allowing author changes once a paper was submitted. Our reasoning was that, were we not to require this permission, there was a loophole around this ACL policy: authors could submit the PDF as they wanted, and then later request that the metadata be updated to the PDF.
I propose we drop this policy, under the following reasoning:
I therefore plan to drop this policy at the end of April, unless someone convinces me otherwise.
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