Add "placement" info to "Staccatos" #28139
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@millsj1134 You are wrong about this. MuseScore does export the placements of all articulations (like staccatos), if you set them manually. Check this test file. The first measure has staccatos with automatic placement, the following two have the placement explicitly set. Furthermore, if you choose to export with full layout, you can infer the placement from the vertical position. |
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@its-not-nice So, I'd consider this already implemented with the expected behaviour. |
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@rettinghaus is there any chance this could be extended to "automatic placement" items? I am not sure how involved it would be for you all to detect that on the BE, but I think it would be a bit more intuitive if it always included this. It's also less work for the engraver 😀. However, I understand whatever you all have to do as a company. Thanks for this and clarifying that there is a workaround/solution to this already. |
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Can you explain why you'd want it? Most programs capable of importing MusicXML should already know the basic rules of music notation and be able to determine the placement automatically just as MuseScore does. |
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@MarcSabatella Sure, I work for the app Piano Marvel and it would help us if this information was included. This is partially because we, internally, used Finale for years and they exported information such as this (as far as I know). I help work on the how the sheet music looks and information like this helps us to render the music more elegantly and true to the score. As you have said, if solving the problem ourselves by making rules is the best move, then we can certainly do so, I just thought it might be worth it to see if you all could export it, please. Having the information there and not having to write rules that could potentially break other rules seems like the most straightforward approach to me, but I am not at all sure what would have to be done on your end to make it possible; it might not be worth it for you all. Hope that helps to clarify! PS: nice to virtually meet you! I have watched a couple of your videos like the one on how to install MuseScore on a Chromebook. It was super helpful!! 😀 |
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Your idea
Right now, when you export staccatos from Musescore 4 there is no information about where they are placed. This is, partially, because the "placement" information is not exported via XML. Is this possible to please add?
Problem to be solved
I would like to have "Placement" information added to the XML exports. This is documented as part of MusicXML 4 here: https://www.w3.org/2021/06/musicxml40/musicxml-reference/elements/staccato/
Prior art
Similar to another feature request I have made, Finale 27 exports this information. Here's how the two XML's differ when exported from MS4 and Finale:
Additional context
This seems to have been reported for Musescore 3 here: #7311
However, to me, this seems similar to a prior request I have made asking to export more MusicXML data for slurs. That can be found here: #24517 (comment)
If this is possible to do, I would really be excited to have this, please! 😀
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