Talk:Shan State

The information in this article about the townships of Shan State is contradictory. The lead says there are "69 townships, including 24 newly-created townships in Special Region 2 (Wa Area)". The next section says there are "54 townships". And the template at the bottom of the article only lists 48 townships. Anyone know which one is correct?

Here are two maps that might be useful. Both are supplied by shanland.org.

Also, I found a list online that names 68 townships:

Northern Shan State: Kunlong, Kutkai, Konkyan, Tangyan, Namkham, Namhsan (North), Namtu, Muse, Lashio, Hsenwi, Lawkai, Hopang, Mabein

Wa Special Region 2: Nam Tit, Na Wi, Man Tun, Kaung Min Hsang, Saun Pha, Hkwin Ma, Lone Htan, Yaung Lin, Ling Haw, Ka Laung Pa, Ai Chun, Yin Pan, Man Man Hsain, Naung Khit, Nam Kham Wu, Nar Kunm, Pang Kham, Pang Yan, Mongyang

Central Shan: Kunhin, Kehsi, Namsang (south), Mongmit, Mongkung, Monghsu, Mongyai, Lawksawk, Laikha, Loilem, Hsipaw, Hopong, ManTon, Kyaukme, Nawnghkio

Southwestern Shan: Hsihseng, Yawnghwe, Pinlaung, Pekhon, Mongnai, Mongpan, Mawkmai, Langkho, Kalaw, Taunggyi, Pindaya, Ywangan

Southeastern Shan: Kengtung, Tachilek, Mongkhak, Monghsat, Mongtung, Mongping, Mongphak, Mongyawng, Mant Man

Kaldari (talk) 23:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

It looks like the spellings for districts, townships, and cities have been implemented quite haphazardly and inconsistently. This is no doubt due to the differences between Shan and Burmese pronunciations and the lack of any kind of transliteration system. In the interest of consistency and verifiability, I'm changing the spellings, where applicable, to the official English language spellings given by The Permanent Committee on Geographical Names (a British government organization). This organization only provides official spellings for Shan State districts, however, so this will not affect township or city names except where those are the same as the district name. Hope that makes sense. Kaldari (talk) 18:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

While trying to "decode" a book on Sri Suriyothai, I stumbled upon Thai: เงื้ยว in the phrase ชนชาติเงื้ยว as an alternate of Tai Yai. สมเด็จพระศรีสุริโยทัย. ประวัติบุคคลสำคัญของไทยพร้อมภาพประกอบ [Biography of important Thai with pictures] (in Thai). ภาพ [illustrator] มานิต หล่อพินิจ. กทม.: บริษัทอักษราพิพัฒน์. พ.ศ. 2536 [AD 1993]. p. 1. ISBN 974-08-3253-9. แต่ ชนชาติเงื้ยว หรือ ไทยใหย่ ซึ่งเคยมีอำนาจอยู่ในดินแดนมอญแสะพม่า {{cite book}}: |first= missing |last= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)CS1 maint: others (link)

Found เงื้ยว in So Sethaputra, สอ เสถบุตร [in Thai] (2542 BE/AD 1999). New Model Thai-English Dictionary. Bangkok: ไทยวัฒนาพานิช : Thai Watthanā Phānit. p. 70. ISBN 974-08-3253-9. A Shan in the Shan States of Burma. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |year= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help); More than one of |pages= and |page= specified (help); Text "สอ เสถบุตร" ignored (help)CS1 maint: year (link)

--Pawyilee (talk) 04:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Why does everyone in Shan State have two different names? Is one the Burmese name and the other the Shan name? Kaldari (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure what you mean by "everyone". Can you give an example? Not everyone in Shan State is Shan. Many other ethnic groups reside in the state. Hybernator (talk) 18:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)Reply