Talk:Systems for Nuclear Auxiliary Power

No discussion of the SNAP 9 A accident??

Removed material: The 12:02, 28 April 2010 (unsigned) contrib of 84.215.33.243 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), consisted entirely of a secn hdg (above, tho it's been subordinated to the previous hdg) and a large direct quotation from the cited URL, which presumably is copyright protected, has been removed from the talk contrib.

* http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/articles/03/0224176.html
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.33.243 (talk) 12:05, 28 April 2010

     The IP's now removed contrib has stood for four weeks without comment. Fair use can support otherwise impermissible direct quotations on such a discussion page, in support of e.g. determining how it should be paraphrased for use in a WP article.
     I guess i'm abt to begin a relevant discussion, but the portion i'm going to discuss is far smaller than the quotation, and stands as evidence that the quote made not only lacked relevance to any text under consideration, nor even any argument for coverage (the rhetorical question in the superordinate section being not an argument, but an audacious assertion that no argument is needed).
     The topic is likely to be article-worthy -- tho the title in this (sub-)section's hdg certainly is not; unless one is pushing some PoV, that title makes as much WP sense as prominently specifying whether a drunk trucker careered thru a toolbooth queue in a Peterbuilt or Mitsubishi Fuso rig. Likewise, the source cited above appears similarly agenda driven, and a better source article should be found. The lk stands, but we probably have better ways of finding good leads than what the article it points to could suggest.
--Jerzy•t 06:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

The quote is relevant to the subject of the article, and the topic is certainly relevant. The source cited is pushing a POV, but “a worldwide soil sampling program carried out in 1970 showed SNAP-9A debris present at all continents and at all latitudes.” is properly attributed to and supported by multiple sources. "Leading to NASA's increased development of solar photovoltaic energy technology" may not be supported, and if anyone wants to remove it, I don't object.--Robert Keiden (talk) 23:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I am no native english speaker, so I think I just drop a link to another - maybe regarded as more reliable or unbiased - source which has some aspects of the accident. It is in the book 'Radioactivity in the marine environment' published by the National Academy of Sciences in 1971 and now available via Google Books, pages 33 to 35.
-- 05:40, 06 April 2011 (UTC)

Someone subsequently added a section for SNAP 9-A, and a description that was paraphrased from the cited URL. (no ref given). I found the source material for the quote (OECD report) and it's source (Atomic Energy Commission-funded study) and added them. The second part with ^{[citation needed]} I could only source to the 21st Century Radio article, so I added that ref with a request for better citation (as the quoted article is pushing POV a little). --Robert Keiden (talk) 23:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

     The title dates back, i think 4 years, to the first revision which cites only a work that explains SNAP only as "Space Nuclear Auxiliary Power", in the context of SNAP-3. The current first ref explicitly explains (on p. 11), in the context of SNAP-9, "Systems for Nuclear Auxiliary Power". The title "Systems Nuclear Auxiliary Power Program" is syntactically far-fetched (wouldn't it have to parse as [[Systems Nuclear] Auxiliary Power] Program, and wouldn't "systems" probably then contradict "auxiliary"?), and if "Program" were part of the formal name the acronym would be the snappier SNAPP. The first 4 words of the current title clearly should be presumed to be based on a careless (or arrogant) disregard of the document the namer cited, in favor of a vague recollection of what appears to a later renaming in light of the broadening of the program's goal. The use and casing of the word "Program" is less clear: obviously there was a SNAP program even if the meaning of SNAP evolved. It may be that the originator, despite the evidence, imagined they were focusing on the program rather than its various products, and then ignored the our naming policy.
     Whatever the nature of the error, the later name "Systems for Nuclear Auxiliary Power" describes the topic no less precisely than "Systems for Nuclear Auxiliary Power program" but is shorter and less confusing. The existing title is wrong, and i think i've chosen the right one to replace it.
--Jerzy•t 19:45, 24 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Search at Energy Citations Database. - Rod57 (talk) 06:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

eg Differences between the 2 or 3 variants. Problems with Pioneer, etc - Rod57 (talk) 06:23, 26 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

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