Talk:I'm genderfluid
Add topicLatest comment: 5 years ago by -sche in topic RFD discussion: January–February 2019
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And I'm cisgender, I'm transgender, I'm homosexual, I'm heterosexual... Seems completely pointless. Do we want that? Per utramque cavernam 16:27, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Surely any entry of the form "I'm <adjective>" is SoP and can be translated part by part. Delete all. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- I wouldn't go so far as to say that (for example "I'm hungry" has non-straightforward translations in French - "I have hunger" - and Russian - "I want to eat" / "To me is the want to eat"), but yes, there's a good deal of cruft in Category:English phrasebook. Per utramque cavernam 16:42, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: sum of parts and not worthwhile for the phrasebook. However, I would keep I'm hungry: 1) Czech mám hlad is not word for word; 2) lemming principle: google books:intitle:phrasebook "I'm hungry". For English phrasebook entries, I like to use something like a lemming criterion: google books:intitle:phrasebook "I'm genderfluid". --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:57, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. The definition is most unhelpful. DonnanZ (talk) 00:13, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not much worse than other things in the phrasebook. People seem to talk about their gender identity a lot these days so these phrases might be useful in their conversation. (As I've said before, I don't like phrasebook in mainspace, but that's another issue.) Equinox ◑ 00:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. I'm totally flabbergasted. --Lambiam 01:43, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- I would understand the possible need for I'm not gay. DonnanZ (talk) 09:48, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep I'm gay and I'm straight if those were intended to be nominated for deletion; I'm homosexual and I'm heterosexual are red links. Those are included in Dutch phrasebooks with some frequency and do have high utility in all kinds of settings (romance, recreation, reporting crimes), especially in places with a lot of gay tourism. I don't know why so few English phrasebooks on BGC show these terms, but there are some with such phrases. [1] [2] [3] I would also support the creation of I'm lesbian or some equivalent.
- I lean keep I'm cisgender and I'm transgender. Again very few phrasebooks have these, [4] but similar considerations apply as above. Print phrasebooks that still exclude those will probably have another think coming soon.
- Abstain on I'm genderfluid; I don't think genderfluidity is any good as a catch-all or substitute for non-binary gender, it is too specific for that.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 09:38, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per Semper. - -sche (discuss) 20:51, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. PrussianOwl (talk) 20:48, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keeping "I'm gay" and "I'm straight" while removing "I'm cisgender," "I'm transgender," etc. is just blatantly discriminatory. פֿינצטערניש (Fintsternish), she/her (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Especially when the proposed criteria for keeping these did not pass. פֿינצטערניש (Fintsternish), she/her (talk) 00:37, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm gay and I'm straight have never been "kept", because they've never been RFDed in the first place (only mentioned by a single commenter above in an RFD in which they were not nominated). You're welcome to RFD them. All of these seem trivially constructable from "I'm" + the translations in the entries on the words ("genderfluid", etc), all of which been kept. - -sche (discuss) 04:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Especially when the proposed criteria for keeping these did not pass. פֿינצטערניש (Fintsternish), she/her (talk) 00:37, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keeping "I'm gay" and "I'm straight" while removing "I'm cisgender," "I'm transgender," etc. is just blatantly discriminatory. פֿינצטערניש (Fintsternish), she/her (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)