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So many things went right for the Dodgers on Friday, you'd think they had won 10-1 instead of stealing a 6-5 triumph into the night.
Andre Ethier seemingly saved 20 runs with his glove.
Nomar Garciaparra hit with runners in scoring position - and with the bases empty.
Russell Martin continued to make himself the fans' choice for a bobblehead - erected Paul Bunyan style at City Hall.
Mark Hendrickson continued to defy gravity - four baserunners, four strikeouts and a run in five innings, his season ERA a zippy 1.66.
Takashi Saito, despite allowing a home run, threw with even more zest than usual, and then closed the game with the most genuine, infectious smile this town has seen since Magic's. I'm serious - it's amazing.
Even Juan Pierre gloved the long fly ball that ended the game without incident - though my be-bopping heart did lose the beat for a measure.
So many things went right, that despite being swept by the Giants, the Dodgers are still having a better week than the Padres, who have blown leads in losing their past three games - two of them in the ninth inning.
So many things went right, I hate to even bring up the third base mess, which saw Wilson Betemit benched despite reaching base twice Thursday - benched with prejudice, as Dodger manager Grady Little told Steve Henson of the Times: "We're not in the habit of continuing to repeat things that aren't working," Little said.
Even more disconcertingly, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com quoted Little thusly: "He did a little better last night and hopefully he'll get it going, but he's at a point where he needs to get something going and needs to sustain it a while."
Even a Spinal Tap guitar can't hold the sustain if you don't play it.
I guess I can sympathize with Little some - he just can't seem to decide what he has in Betemit. And Little did surprise me by offering encouraging words for Chad Billingsley, who has Yhency Brazoban breathing down his neck and all but lost Friday's game in relief by allowing three runs in the sixth inning - before pitching a shutout seventh.
"He was a little rusty," Little told Gurnick. "It was a different man the second inning, the guy we're looking to see."
And Little's hands are somewhat tied with the Matt Kemp situation. The Dodgers are stuck playing musical chairs with their outfielders, and while the notion that Kemp is not a center fielder has lost traction with the increasing evidence that Pierre isn't one either, it's hard to imagine a reality where anything but an injury dislodges Pierre or Luis Gonzalez from their tenured positions. It's Ethier vs. Kemp (and James Loney if you like) for right field, what-have-you-done-for-me-lately prevailing.
So this is where I stand.
Plan A: Let Betemit play third base, even if it means riding out a rough patch.
Plan B: Though others have never dropped the call, I've left the Dodgers alone on moving Nomar Garciaparra to third base and elevating Loney to first. But if you're not going to commit to Betemit, they really should make this move.
First of all, the notion that Garciaparra is more likely to get hurt at third base is specious. There is less action at third base than at first base. There are more throws to make, but barely. As a team, the Dodgers are averaging fewer than two assists per game from third base. Fifty total chances in 23 games. We shouldn't be afraid of this.
Moreover, Garciaparra is, in his own way, a veteran version of Hong-Chih Kuo. It's almost inevitable that he's going to get hurt and/or decline in performance as the season progresses - having little to do with his position. After all, Garciaparra was playing first base last year when his body unraveled. The Dodgers should make the most of him while they can.
Look, this is no indictment of Wilson Valdez, who has exceeded expectations every day in 2007. But should Valdez's success forestall the Dodgers from trying to improve?
I'm not trying to be alarmist. The Dodgers are in first place. They've recorded two thrilling victories in six days. More is working than isn't. And indecision is part of life. I'm just recommending that the team parlay this optimism. A championship team doesn't settle for Wilson Valdez at third base. (It may not settle for Juan Pierre in center field, either, but that bridge is a way's off from crossing.)
Unless those things are in center field.
Peirre has lowered the standard for CF defense to a point that Kemp can stay above it meaning if Ethier continues to hit with some power and play great defense, Kemp now only has to hit with power to be a better choice in CF.
Betemit is everything Loney could hope for.
ss Furcal
rf Ethier
cf Kemp
3b Garciaparra
2b Kent
1b Loney
c Martin
lf Pierre/Gonzo
I would flip flop Martin and Ethier, but one has to admit that it would be a nice change. However, Pierre is not a LF. That is the second easiest position on the defensive spectrum and below average hitting center fielder becomes a soul crushingly bad left fielder.
Good write up Jon. That is pretty much exactly how I feel.
I wish rosters could be expanded by one. Then we could try out a Betemit/La Roche platoon. Or, yeah, bring up Loney, move Nomar. We'll see something happen in a month, I'd wager, if the production continues to not be there. I'd like the above line-up, too, but a Pierre Gonzo platoon is likely a pipe dream. As is my Kemp-Pierre platoon dream.
By putting Gonzo and Peirre in left it allows them to play there until June when maybe Pierre can be traded. If Kemp is going to be the longer range solution in CF he should be playing there now and not wait for Pierre to be traded.
"I don't hear anything."
"Well you would though, if it were playing."
So far, Wilson Betemit goes to 1.
ERA 1.46
W-L 3-1
SVS 2
IP 12.1
SO 18
League Avg. againt him .167
Not to shabby if you ask me. why am i posting this you ask? i just really wanna see him pitch at Dodger Stadium already!
JaMarcus Russell has the worst decision making this side of George Armstrong Custer.
I watched quite a few LSU games last year. Russell is a physical god, be he scares the heck out of me.
I think Maurice Clarett has made worse decisions in his life.
I can't wait until JaMarcus' ability to throw the ball from his back 40 yards is actually utilized. I bet Chris Peterson could dream up some way to take advantage of that.
I cheated off IMDB to get it exactly correct.
Plus, Len Bias beats Clarett. Mo gets out of prison in 4 years. Bias merged with the infinite.
Recall LaRoche.
Start LaRoche at 3b, and let Betemit be the utility player he always has been. I dont think Nomar should switch positions.
If Kemp is not a CF then (after last night) let's put Ethier there.
Thanks for that analysis. :)
In fact, I'm pretty sure most of his injuries in recent years have occurred while he's either been hitting or running the bases. I don't think his position in the field has had anything to do with it.
Coincidentally, that is also the fourth rule of Fight Club.
When they intentionally walked Gonzo in the ninth my immediate thought was, "bad move; Martin's gonna make 'em pay" and he did. What a player this kid's turning out to be. Still can't believe he's only got about a full season of service under his belt.
Watching Ethier make some outstanding plays on defense this past week makes me think of him as a baby Jim Edmonds.
As for Billingsley, the kid's clearly got good stuff and a mountain of potential, but man, that first inning of relief was brutal. He's already had a number of spotty outings so far and while I suppose he's still getting acclimated to his role as a reliever and we should all be patient as he adjusts, I can't help but hold my breath any time Little puts him into tie or 1 or 2 run games.
I still have faith that any day now Betemit's going to bust out of his funk. It's kind of exciting in way. He's like the Mount Rainier of ballplayers -- dormant now, but with the potential to explode at any moment.
i agree with much of jon's post too.
Somebody will rush up to grab Quinn in the next three or four picks.
Dude, the guy didn't get drafted as early as he thought he would. He didn't contract AIDS.
Sign and trades are basically unnecessary in MLB unlike the NBA because there is no salary cap restricting what a team can offer. If you mean a mid-season trade where he is signed to an extension, you can pretty much bet this won't happen. Scott Boras is his agent and will set up a bidding war in the off-season
But Tex is a Boras guy, so extensions...Not so much.
"Should the Dolphins have passed on Brady Quinn?"
Voters are given one response option: "Yes"
It must have been a good move then.
That is a yellow alert.
12 years later, I'm still a bitter, bitter man.
Kurt Warner ended my bitterness, but Mike Martz rekindled it a few years later.
I'm still trying to figure out what that meant? Do teams draft "unaggressively?" Do they say "We don't want a good player who has no leverage about joining us. We'll just take some third-string DB...."
I've been thinking along those lines ever since the day Kemp got hurt and was going to ask what this group thinks of Ethier in center. The thing I noticed about the play was that just before Kemp hit the wall the ball "clanged" off the heel of his glove. To me, a ball that hits the HEEL of an outfielders glove is a ball that has been misjudged and should have been caught. Granted, he hit the wall so hard that he most likely would have dropped it anyway. But my point is that he misjudged it in the first place. While Kemp is the faster of the two Ethier appears to be the better defensive outfielder. And after watching Lofton/Pierre I would consider Ethier a big improvement even though he doesn't have their speed.
That's because he's not really a reliever. If a starter came in and allowed three runs in the first inning, obviously it's not good, but he has time to recover, as Billingsley did in his second inning.
However, I don't disagree at all with having him in the pen. That's a good place for him to build up some experience with the hitters he's going to be facing for the next 10 years. There are going to be bumps along the way, but I'm glad Little is showing him some patience. His predecessor would not have done that.
The middle-relief role was a good discipine for Hendrickson in the reverse direction. When the bell rings now, he's ready, from the first pitch. That's where Billingsley has to get to. The way he pitched the 7th inning after such a bad 6th made me think things are going to be more than okay with him, but he has to get to that level of competitiveness from pitch one.
It's annoying that some folks will categorically deny this possibility and claim that Kemp/Ethier are "not centerfielders", while simultaneously taking Pierre's centerfielderness as given and not subjecting it to any kind of scrutiny.
Seems to me that the primary reason Pierre is considered a natural centerfielder is that there's really no other place on the field he can play, and if one thinks his offense is so important that a place on the field for him must be found, centerfield is the only place you can really reasonably put him.
The combination of his left-handedness and noodle-armedness pretty much rule out RF, 2B, SS, 3B, C, and P. That leaves 1B, CF, and LF. While he probably could be inserted at 1B or LF, the offensive opportunity costs would be enormous. That leaves CF, which he's not even very good at.
I think the Dodgers brass is in "Kemp/Ethier are not centerfielders" camp. How else can you explain giving Juan Pierre a 5-year contract? Based on actual defensive ability, Kemp and Ethier should have been given a chance to win the job but Pierre has essentially blocked that from being a possibility.
If the Dodgers thought either of those guys could have been the team's centerfielder as early as 2008, Juan Pierre should not have been signed.
We were all crushed when we signed the player. He's been a disaster. I tried, for the first few weeks, to not say anything. But it just keeps getting worse, and we're all still so bitter. I agree that it's repetitive...But that's a reflection of how we feel.
Carson Bigbee
Whitey Witt
Jack McCarthy
Ducky Holmes
Gene Richards
Orator Shaffer
George Browne
Joe Stripp
Debs Garms
Patsy Dougherty
The player is pretty much Fredo to me anyways.
I do not see Garciaparra moving to 3rd unless Betemit got hurt for the season. Even then, I think that LaRoche would be given the chance if he picks it up in the minors.
I understand that, but trading him for Mr. Repetitive isn't the way to go.
BTW: Does anyone here remember the Eddie Rabbitt song from the 80s entitled "Repetitive Regret"? Just asking.
Huzzah!
And my clumsy passive agressive thing worked really well.
Betemit does not have any options left, I believe the article was in the LA Times the other day.
Not to harp on Pierre, but I believe the signing was done as much as a competive block (our GM's opinion not mine) so SF or the Angels couldn't get him.
As a way to solve the 3rd base and centerfield problem in a real world practical sense-and that means Nomar won't be moved to 3rd, would there be any possibility to get either Blalock from the Rangers or Zimmerman from the Nats. I doubt it, but would be worth exploring.
I am unsure about LaRoche this year, might even consider seeing if we could get Beltre back
Zimmerman isn't moving. The Nationals are building around him. I really don't see the Dodgers making a move for a 3B just because LaRoche should be a full-time player next year (or possibly by mid-season).
Also how do either of those trade possibilities solve the CF problem? I do believe there is a problem but Pierre is here to stay so we might as well just get accustomed to him.
Kemp and/or Ethier could not possibly be worse than Pierre defensively in CF.
Martinez/Anderson/Seanez are the best candidates for a DFA when Kemp comes back.
With the Dodgers light hitting offense the team goes as the starting pitching goes. If the SP is on then the team has a chance. If the SP is having a bad day the odds are very long for a win. The bullpen can only prevent runs, not score them.
Why? No idea.
jujibee mentioned we might have to sweeten the deal & throw in a good prospect so a team could budge.
Xeifrank has the moral authority to tell us what to do because he always signs off with a "vr".
And his handle starts with an X which is really cool.
And I think he doesn't like Jimmy Clausen, but I might be mistaken.
That might be an option in 2009 if we cover some salary too. But, Pierre's here to stay (my guess) at least through the first 2 years of his deal.
Thanks!
"Greg" is ashamed of his real name
As one of the few people privy to Greg Brock's real name, I can tell you that if you ever find it out, you will be greatly let down.
No offense to Mr. Brock.
In the meantime, I will enjoy my status as Alfred, the only person who knows Greg Brock's secret identity.
A quick Bio of they boys in question.
11 Mike Moustakas
Height / Weight 6-0 / 195
Position Shortstop
Bats / Throws Left / Right
Class Senior
JUNIOR (2006): Batted .427 with a school-record 14 home runs and had a team-high 47 RBIs ... Batted .452 with runners in scoring position ... Had a team-best .979 slugging percentage ... Hit a grand slam to beat Cleveland, 5-3, on March 21 ... Hit five home runs in five games, including two against Las Vegas Centennial on April 12, in the Las Vegas Durango tournament ... Hit two home runs, one a two-run shot, and a double against Cleveland on May 2 ... All-American ... Junior of the year in California by Cal-Hi Sports ... City Section co-player of the year ... Co-player of the year in WVL ... Led U.S. junior national team in runs scored with nine and had a home run and seven RBIs at world championships in Cuba.
Matt Dominguez
Height / Weight 6-2 / 190
Position Third Baseman
Bats / Throws Right / Right
Class Senior
JUNIOR (2006): Batted .370 with 10 home runs and 32 RBIs ... Led the team with 24 walks ... Led the team with 72 assists ... Hit a walk-off grand slam in the eighth inning to beat El Camino Real, 9-5, on April 20 and earned the victory in relief ... Hit a go-ahead grand slam in the seventh inning to beat Cleveland, 5-2, on March 23 ... Hit a home run against Kennedy in the City Section final at Dodger Stadium, his second at the venue ... All-American ... First-team All-City and All-WVL, second-team All-State ... Led U.S. junior national team with two home runs and 11 RBIs at world championships in Cuba, where team won silver medal.
SOPHOMORE (2005): Second on the team in batting at .416, home runs with 10 and RBIs with 49 ... Led the team with 21 walks ... Started the season with seven consecutive hits ... Hit a run-scoring single in the bottom of the eighth inning to beat Sylmar, 6-5, March 23 in the title game of the Las Vegas Durango tournament ... Hit three three-run home runs in a span of four games in early May ... Hit a home run against El Camino Real in the City Section final at Dodger Stadium ... All-American ... First-team All-State, All-City and All-WVL ... Selected to play on the U.S. youth national team.
My first name is Zoroaster.
they sound like really good players. ToyCannon so when are you gonna head out to Lancaster? are you sure Kershaw is pitching the day you go?
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/events/draft_report/y2007/index.jsp?mc=mcgeary
really smooth, effortless delivery.
1. kershaw
2. probably elbert
After a while all these lefty prospects seem to melt together.
not really. Elbert is more like a poor mans kazmir. Kershaw doesnt really compare to kazmir except that they are both left handed and from the houston area.
what gives there showing a concert of classical music?
Don't know, I'm watching the game right now but it started much earlier then the TV guide said. This is a replay and Chatsworth is a head 17-3 with Dominguez going 4/4 with 2 home runs.
Nate I've seen Matt hit a home run as a Sophmore at Dodger stadium in the title game and then he did it again last year as a Junior. I know Moustakas is the better prospect I just find it amazing that they have been playing side by side for two years.
what do you think of dominguez's swing? the videos ive seen of him arent very attrractive to me. He seems to lunge at the ball and doesnt look fluid.
I'm assuming that the mercy rule is not on the books now. They keep changing their mind on that rule in California.
I can tell you that if you ever find it out, you will be greatly let down.
Juan Pierre?
it took 2,3 minutes but it came on.
Umm...This might get awkward...
Going back tonight and tomorrow and hope Maddux looks the same as the last time we say him pitch for us.
Last thought, Marlon Anderson had a lot to do with our win last night as well. Props!
adrian peterson and dwayne jarrett goes a long way to start up an offense.
from whatve ive read, i like parker but i want to see some video on him.
but i would still take Mcgeary over Parker. I just love his delivery and polish. hes like a rich man's brett anderson.
You guys made me laugh. Thank you.
i ain't no scout either but allot of scounts look at how they do against the elite pitchers of the league & they take it from there/try to project there celling (sp?)
ps Logan White seems to be very good in that depart, thank god. :o)
err, i mean department
1) Stay home and watch Dodgers-Padres game on TV
2) Go to Disney Hall to hear Salif Keita in concert.
I defer to the will of the majority.
Who is Salif Keita?
http://tinyurl.com/2urwsl
If you you see only one throat singing group this year, make it Tuvan throat singing.
Fortunately, in this case, she's already dead.
139 I don't know why that's fortunate. Now you can't get tickets.
I know it's supposed to sound like an instrument, but I just hear gutteral moaning.
What if Juan Pierre hits a home run? What if Wilson Betemit turns an unassisted triple play at third base (it would be really cool to see that!)? What if Brett Tomko throws a very interesting game? What if Luis Gonzalez throws a seed from the warning track all the way to home on the fly?
One possibility:
Runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs. A double steal attempt. Batter hits a line drive towards 2nd base. Shortstop is running to cover 2nd, catches the line drive for out #1, steps on 2nd base for out #2, tags the runner arriving at 2nd base from first for out #3.
For a third baseman to do it, you would need to have second and third and a liner to the third baseman and a really stupid runner on second who wouldn't bother to stop running after the ball was caught.
All the UTPs in the majors have been by first basemen, second basemen, or shortstops.
As someone who has seen a lot of mediocre baseball played by his alma mater, this is pretty freaky.
The Bruins are just 24-17 overall with a nonconference record of 14-16.
Savage is a winner. Adams has character. His players were good people. He had a bunch of successful pros.
Blah blah blah.
Yeah, I was poking fun at the word "turn" because a turn implies a throw, which would negate the unassisted-ness of the triple play.
For a 3rd baseman to record one my guess is it would need to be on some kind of botched squeeze or double steal of 3rd and home.
1. Seven Year Ache
2. I Don't Know Why You Don't Want Me
I'd also be interested to see games from 01 and 02, the two seasons I missed when I succumbed to some terrible ideological convictions.
Please email me if you have any relevant information: pellam.1@osu.edu
Tony Jackson says Betemit is sick
Right, I can see that happening now. :-) Juan Pierre pops up the squeeze bunt, the 3rd baseman catches it and tags Either then runs over and tags J.D Drew who is sliding into 3rd base. Wait an minute... didn't J.D. opt out. :-)
Furcal, SS
Pierre, CF
Nomar, 1B
Kent, 2B
Gonzo, LF
Martin, C
Ethier, RF
Valdez, 3B
Tomko, P
I had no idea that Rosanne Cash was going to be playing at the Disney Hall. I'm on my way to Ebay/Stubhub right now. No sarcasm, she was one of my favorites during a time when I listened to very very little country music.
Catch a line drive for one, double up or tag the runner at first for two, and then...?
Hopefully the Dodgers won't disappoint you Bob.
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