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ARIA WG

27 Feb 2020

Attendees

Present
Joanmarie_Diggs, MarkMccarthy, aaronlev, jamesn, pkra, MichaelC, carmacleod, harris, CurtBellew, Matt_King, Sina_Bahram
Regrets
Scott_O
Chair
JamesNurthen
Scribe
carmacleod

Contents


<scribe> scribe: carmacleod

New Issue Triage

https://github.com/search?l=&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+created%3A%3E%3D2020-02-20+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+repo%3Aw3c%2Faccname+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcore-aam&type=Issues

jn: 2 issues https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1206

carmacleod: we can leave this until the discussion on meter

jamesn: marking as 1.2

carmacleod: assign to me

jamesn: next, https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/77

aaronlev: confusing to have sections names "Name", "Description", and "Name & Description" - need to have a new name
... makes sense to defer to 1.3 and do a good job in 1.3

jamesn: we don't have a 1.3 milestone for accname - should we add one?

MichaelC: we had previously planned to make 1.2 final for accname and not have 1.3, but we could add milestone

joanie: could accname 1.2 depend on aria 1.3?

MichaelC: yes

sina: I find that confusing, though
... accname will change with 1.3 - even if only editorial or because we're adding aria-description - would be confusing for anyone not in the group

joanie: we should do an accname for 1.2 - I will be commit-monkey

aaronlev: brian and I can work on this together

New PR Triage

https://github.com/search?l=&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+created%3A%3E%3D2020-02-20+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+repo%3Aw3c%2Faccname+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcore-aam&type=Issues

jamesn: look at https://github.com/w3c/accname/pull/69 later in agenda

Support aria-description

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/accname/pull/69

aria-description

github: https://github.com/w3c/accname/pull/69

joanie: a bit weird that aria-description is not in Name & Description computation

aaronlev: confusing to have sections names "Name", "Description", and "Name & Description" - need to have a new name, maybe "Primary Text Computation"

<aaronlev> 1. Change third item to be "Primary text computation"

<aaronlev> 2. Change description computation to add all the attributes that might be used

<aaronlev> 3. Change primary text computation to be modeless in terms of what it's being used for

<aaronlev> Item 2 would include add aria-description

<aaronlev> ^ my proposal for 13

<aaronlev> ^ my proposal for 1.3

jamesn: can we add pr-preview to the accname repo?

MichaelC: yes - I'll do that

carmacleod: I think I have a pr for that

<MarkMccarthy> s/

jamesn: need a preview to look at this

mck: how about using the name "Text Content Computation"? instead of "Primary..."

aaronlev: I like that name. "Text Content Computation"
... how about if I just expand the current pr to add this?

meter role should have optional aria-valuemin/max with defaults

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1123

Meter role

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1123

carmacleod: related to https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1206

joanie: we should do this for 1.2

jamesn: changing to 1.2

mck: still an issue around valuetext - if using that, why do you need min and max at all?

Wide Review Comments with PRs

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22WR+comments%22+label%3A%22has+PR%22+

Update example 13, aria-haspopup is no longer global

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1183

mck: It is not recommended to use aria-label on a heading - so example goes against APG
... change the heading content to match APG, saying something like "when heading content is insufficient..."
... want an example that demonstrates that the semantic is valid, but role presentation is ignored

carmacleod: ok, I'll fix up the example, will ping james when done

Wide Review Comments without PRs

<jamesn> "A generic can provide a limited number of accessible states and properties for its descendants, such as aria-live attributes. In addition, generic containers are exposed to the API so that assistive technologies can gather certain properties such as layout and bounds. This differentiates it from the presentation role. "

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1182

jamesn: nit, should be "accessibility API", not just "API".

mck: do we want to put the statement that we're differentiating from presentation role in front of the new sentence?

carmacleod: yes, that works

mck: I will add that to the pr

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22WR+comments%22+-label%3A%22has+PR%22+

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1178

jamesn: need to ping Wilco

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1177

mck: waiting for feedback. think we should close or move to later, but want feedback from reporter

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1173

jamesn: waiting for wilco

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1161

jamesn: waiting on me

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1152

jamesn: waiting on wilco for response

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1151

jamesn: Bryan did analysis, what do we need to do with this?

bryan: mainly editorial

jamesn: bryan can you do a pr?

bryan: don't think I have time

jamesn: I will take it, since you have done the work and put the comments in the issue

github: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1150

jamesn: scott owns - he is the right person to take this on
... does need to go in 1.2, because DOM 4 and not DOM 3 - our references have changed

sina: I agree that it's editorial

any other topics?

sina: does anything else need to be done before aria-braillelabel goes in?
... currently only 2 reviewers, need a third?

jamesn: yes
... volunteers to review aria-braillelabel?
... ok to merge after 3rd reviewer?

+1

jamesn: thanks, everyone!

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