User talk:Ameisenigel
Deletion of Q130467239
[edit]You've delete the Wikidata entry for Enterprise Go: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=Q130467239
This entry was added to help with adding their +100 rental stations in Switzerland to OpenStreetMap, see here: https://umap.osm.ch/en/map/enterprise-go-standorte-schweiz_8521, https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/trying-to-bulk-import-locations/119788, and https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/issues/10066#issuecomment-2439892787 Would it be possible to undelete the page?
David.haberthuer (talk) 22:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you able to provide serious references for this item? That would be the easiest way to fulfill WD:N. --Ameisenigel (talk) 03:54, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Is https://enterprise-go.ch not serious enough? David.haberthuer (talk) 07:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- We do not consider the website of the entity that is represented by this item as a reference because it is not neutral. We need neutral references for items, otherwise we would have to consider every organisation with a website as notable. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- So 100 rental stations spread over Switzerland does also not make this organisation notable?
- The Swiss Railways lists them on their website, too: https://business.sbb.ch/de/kombinierte-mobilitaet/sharing-dienste/carsharing/enterprise-go-carsharing.html
- (I'm in *no* way affiliated with them by the way, I was the person that imported their data into OpenStreetMap and wanted to generate an entry in nsi.guide to help OpenStreetMap editors to keep the data consistent. That is very easy to do with a Wikidata entry. See my PR here: https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/pull/10067. And some discussion here: https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/issues/10066, which also mentions that with them having +100 stations in Switzerland it should be notable enough). David.haberthuer (talk) 21:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- SBB looks valid to me, so I have undeleted the item. Please make sure to add the link to the item. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great, thanks. 130.92.204.251 11:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- SBB looks valid to me, so I have undeleted the item. Please make sure to add the link to the item. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- We do not consider the website of the entity that is represented by this item as a reference because it is not neutral. We need neutral references for items, otherwise we would have to consider every organisation with a website as notable. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:26, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Is https://enterprise-go.ch not serious enough? David.haberthuer (talk) 07:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Quellenfrage
[edit]Hallo Ameisenigel, wie geht Wikidata mit offensichtlichen Fehlern in Quellen um? Beispiel: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29112800. Die Quelle Palissy schreibt: Dimensions normalisées L = 292 (lang) ; la = 280 (breit) ; h = 225 (hoch). Die Breite kann niemals passen. Kein Auto von 1899 war 280 cm breit. Vom Ersteller der Seite erhielt ich auf commons die Antwort, vielleicht 180 cm breit. Meine Vermutung liegt niedriger, vielleicht 140 cm. Ein Ändern des Wertes auf 180 oder 140 geht nicht, weil quellenlos. Geht ein Entfernen des Wertes Breite?
Da die Breite derart falsch ist, kann ich den Angaben zu Länge und Höhe auch nicht trauen. Was kann man damit machen? Ersatzlos entfernen?
Es gibt übrigens noch mehr Angaben von Palissy zu anderen Fahrzeugen, bei denen ich ebenfalls etwas anzweifle. Letztendlich entstehen bei mir Zweifel an der allgemeinen Genauigkeit der Seite Palissy – aber das soll nicht Thema dieses Abschnitts sein. Gruß --Buch-t (talk) 09:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo, in dem Fall wäre es wohl am sinnvollsten, die Aussagen als missbilligt zu kennzeichnen (siehe Help:Deprecation). Das verhindert auch, dass die Angaben wieder neu eingefügt werden. --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Das klingt auf jeden Fall besser als bloßes Entfernen. Ich habe es hiermit versucht. Richtig so? --Buch-t (talk) 10:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- So sollte es passen. --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Das klingt auf jeden Fall besser als bloßes Entfernen. Ich habe es hiermit versucht. Richtig so? --Buch-t (talk) 10:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)