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M’s Trade Rhodes to Marlins

Dave · July 31, 2008 at 8:42 am · Filed Under Mariners 

The M’s have traded Arthur Rhodes to Florida for RHP Gaby Hernandez. This is about as good a haul for Rhodes as you could expect. Hernandez isn’t a prime prospect, but he’s got a decent arm and there’s some potential there. He was the Mets 3rd round pick in ’04, went to Florda in the Paul Lo Duca deal, and has split time between Triple-A Albuquerque and Double-A Carolina.

His ERA isn’t good, but that doesn’t matter – his walk, strikeout, and ground ball rates are all right where they’ve been his entire career. The ERA is inflated by a high BABIP, which is probably just a combination of park effects (Albuquerque is a great place to hit), bad defense, and luck.

He throws 90-93 with a four seam fastball and uses a cutter, has a curve and a change that are both average-ish, and okay command. He’s just 22, and there’s room for growth, but right now, he projects as a #5 starter or good reliever.

Nice pickup by Pelekoudas.

Comments

81 Responses to “M’s Trade Rhodes to Marlins”

  1. jordan on July 31st, 2008 11:23 am

    JP Arencibia!

  2. cdowley on July 31st, 2008 11:26 am

    On another side note, the Red Sox are pursuing JJ Putz. How about Jed Lowrie? Good replacement for Yuni. (I think, haven’t seen him play, but I hear he is a pretty darn good SS)

    Lowrie would be tempting, to be sure… From what I’ve read about him, he’s virtually a Pedroia clone, but with a touch less power and a touch more speed. Good glove, and a sparkplug of a player. Wouldn’t mind having him here… but I wouldn’t trade J.J. for him. Not straight up, anyhow. Gimme a pitcher in the deal, too, and we’ll talk.

    Raul to the Jays would be interesting. Not a bad park for him (~.900 OPS there the last three years), and he seems to be a decent fit all-around. Wonder what we’d get back for him?

  3. IHaveALittleProject on July 31st, 2008 11:26 am

    My God. “Center field is an easier position to play than right field.” Steve Phillips somehow got me to write yet another post about him.

  4. joser on July 31st, 2008 11:32 am

    I just love the (longshot?) idea of a rotation that includes “Gaby and Felix, Los Hernandez Bros” There’s a bobblehead promotion to turn up for! (They might even overshadow Seattle’s more famous Los Bros Hernandez….hey, maybe they could do a limited edition comic for the M’s. There’s a promotional item that could really appreciate in value.)

  5. Hoppy on July 31st, 2008 11:34 am

    Jed Lowrie will be the type of player you write in at SS for ten years and bat 2nd. Superstar? No. Move a runner up? Steal a base? Lay a bunt? Make every play and be a team leader? Yep. If the Ms somehow got Lowrie I would be both shocked and pleased.

  6. dgarnett on July 31st, 2008 11:43 am

    Lowrie sounds intriguing, but without Fields signed, I’d be very afraid that Morrow would be forever stuck in the Closer role.

  7. jordan on July 31st, 2008 11:45 am

    56- Maybe we could try and get Hansen as well. The Red Sox expressed a little interest in Washburn. So we could throw Wash in there too, and get Hansen.

  8. Dave on July 31st, 2008 11:46 am

    What – no they didn’t. Stop making stuff up.

  9. jordan on July 31st, 2008 11:47 am
  10. don52656 on July 31st, 2008 11:47 am

    I find the Jarrod Washburn discussions interesting. I also think that it’s a no-win situation for Pelekoudas. If he doesn’t trade Washburn, most will be all over him for not making a move. If he does trade Washburn, the criticism will be that he didn’t get enough.

    Frankly, I see no reason for Pelekoudas to be in a hurry to move Washburn. First, today’s deadline is an artificial one as far as Washburn is concerned, as I doubt anyone will try to claim him on waivers, and if they do, the M’s can decide then whether to let him be claimed or not, effectively doing the same thing as if they traded him the Yankees. The other alternative is to try to work something out with the team that put in a claim.

    Second, since Washburn is not a free agent after the year, there isn’t much to be lost by exploring trading him during the off-season. While the Washburn contract hasn’t proven to be a good one, it’s not like #4 or #5 starters are without value. Every off-season, teams seem to fall over themselves to sign the next mediocre free agent starter to a long-term, multi-ten-million dollar contract. Compared to the likely free agents, Washburn might be an attractive trade option to a team trying to fill out their rotation without having to commit $50 million.

    Finally, Washburn’s recent “improvement” may be temporary, but I find it interesting that it coincides with the M’s team defense improving over the past month or so. The team DEF has jumped recently, and the improvement looks like it is largely the result of moving Ichiro to RF and putting the Reed/Bloomquist platoon in CF. Whatever the offensive results, the outfield defense is improved. As the starter with the highest ratio of fly ball outs to ground ball outs, Washburn would likely benefit the most among our rotation. So, maybe the improvement is more sustainable than we think if the M’s can continue to realize that the defense they put behind the pitchers is important.

  11. Dave on July 31st, 2008 11:49 am

    No one will criticize Pelekoudas for “not getting enough” if he trades Washburn for nothing in a pure contract dump. We’ll throw a parade in his honor even if the Yankees were to offer nothing more than a warm bottle of spit.

  12. jordan on July 31st, 2008 11:50 am

    I heard they did a couple nights ago on espn.

  13. great gonzalez on July 31st, 2008 11:52 am

    I also think that it’s a no-win situation for Pelekoudas. If he doesn’t trade Washburn, most will be all over him for not making a move. If he does trade Washburn, the criticism will be that he didn’t get enough.

    I, for one, would not criticize him for not getting enough. If we got rid of Washburn and his contract but got no players in return, I’d count it as a success.

  14. abender20 on July 31st, 2008 11:56 am

    Two things – If Pelekoudas can manage to get Travis Snider back to Everett (well, I’d settle for 1st and Royal Brougham), that would be tremendous.

    Secondly – The Reds are reportedly interested in Nelson Cruz. What do the M’s have of interest that would pull him in?

  15. Dave on July 31st, 2008 11:57 am

    That doesn’t make it true. The Red Sox have so many starting pitchers that they’re converting guys like Justin Masterson into relievers for the rest of the year to use them all.

  16. cody on July 31st, 2008 11:58 am

    Good job Lee, you have now pulled off the same number of good trades/free agent signings as your predecessor.
    52- Whoa! The way J.J’s been pitching, I would start doing backflips if we somehow mananged to swap him for Jed Lowrie.

  17. Evan on July 31st, 2008 11:59 am

    The M’s would probably be asking for Lind/Snider or something, assuming the rumor is true.

    Toronto would need Lind, though. If their goal is to improve their offense, Lind is part of the solution. The guy they want to replace is Wilkerson (why they don’t just play Stairs everyday I have no idea).

  18. Johan Garpenlov on July 31st, 2008 12:02 pm

    M’s Trade Rhodes to Marlins

    Forgive me, but I’ll need to see a link from now on when you want to report a trade, buddy.

  19. don52656 on July 31st, 2008 12:02 pm

    OK, Dave, you won’t criticize Pelekoudas, but a lot of the media and fans would. But don’t you agree that keeping Washburn past today doesn’t necessarily mean that Pelekoudas is making a mistake?

  20. cdowley on July 31st, 2008 12:04 pm

    I heard they did a couple nights ago on espn

    You can’t believe 95% of what ESPN puts out as “rumors” for baseball this time of year, especially from Olney of late…

    Most obvious sign that it wasn’t true? ESPN was the only one reporting that, except for a few outlets saying “ESPN is reporting that…”

  21. cody on July 31st, 2008 12:05 pm

    Apparantly Junior has agreed on a trade to the White Sox for two prospects.

  22. B_Con on July 31st, 2008 12:05 pm

    If LP has the opportunity to dump Washburn’s contract right now and isn’t doing it, then yes, he is making a mistake.

  23. cdowley on July 31st, 2008 12:07 pm

    Forgive me, but I’ll need to see a link from now on when you want to report a trade, buddy.

    Forgive me, but I’ll need you to check the Times, PI, TNT, ESPN, SI, MLB.com, or Yahoo, buddy.

  24. jordan on July 31st, 2008 12:09 pm

    Good point.. my bad.

  25. cdowley on July 31st, 2008 12:10 pm

    Rays won the Bay sweepstakes

    Wow, they really mean it this time around, huh?

  26. B_Con on July 31st, 2008 12:11 pm

    Plus, we need to clear room in the starting rotation for the triumphant emergence of Brandon Morrow as heralded by official Mariners press lackey Jim Street!

  27. aaron c. on July 31st, 2008 12:11 pm

    Forgive me, but I’ll need you to check the Times, PI, TNT, ESPN, SI, MLB.com, or Yahoo, buddy.

    If you’re the one doing to posting, it’s up to you to provide a link.

  28. cdowley on July 31st, 2008 12:14 pm

    My point was that there’s easily a dozen or more easily accessible sources that have been reporting it all day. If he’s checking here, he’s probably been to at least one of those, too.

  29. galaxieboi on July 31st, 2008 12:16 pm

    With the three-way deal between the Pirates, Red Sox, and Marlins falling through, an MLB.com source says that the Rays are going to acquire right-handed hitting outfielder Jason Bay for Minor League prospects including shortstop Reid Brignac and right-hander Jeff Niemann. The Rays have not confirmed the deal.

    Cdowley is right, they aren’t f***ing around anymore. I like it.

  30. jordan on July 31st, 2008 12:18 pm

    Wait… What time is the line? I thought it was tonight… now it sounds like its at 1.

  31. cdowley on July 31st, 2008 12:23 pm

    80 –

    It’s been at 1 all along… just like it has been for years…

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