Game 123, Mariners at Angels
7 o’clock. Ooh, here’s the thing to break a losing streak: an angry former player facing the team that wouldn’t cough up a sufficently large contract! The Angels are hitting .265/.324/.423 against left-handers this year – not far off their season average.
Hargrove has, it seems, stepped back from the abyss of previous insane lineups, which may help:
RF-L Ichiro
2b-R Lopez
3b-R Beltre
LF-L Ibanez
1b-R Sexson
C-R Johjima
DH-L Broussard
SS-R Betancourt
CF-R Jones
A relatively rare #6 spot for Johjima. Snelling is benched as a reward for his success in the last two games.
For real lineup flux, though, check out the Angels
CF Figgins
3B Izturis
SS Cabrera
RF Guerrero
LF Rivera
DH Anderson
1B Quinlan
2B Kendrick
C Napoli
Today’s CF Figgins started at second. Kendrick, at second, started at first yesterday. Their left fielder moves to DH, the DH moves to RF, RF moves to LF.
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hey, was that the old guy they gave up that uber-prospect Choo for?
Ben!!!
Apparently not.
PH WILLIE!!!
Here is where Snelling wins the starting job….
Help us, Chris Snelling, you’re our only hope.
WHAT THE FUCK!!!???!!!
I hate K-Rod. Dude acts like he’s never saved a game every time he does it.
That last one was high, and you have to swing when you’re a rookie.
or not.
Rick Reed must’ve been dumped by Chris Snelling’s mom in high school or something
FUCK YOU, UMP.
Motherfucking Snakes on a Plane!
How the hell can youcall those three pitches strikes?
18 motherfucking hits and another motherfucking loss.
I feel sorry for the guy. Snelling, that is.
You take six balls in a row, as you rightly ought, and the umpire calls you out.
The only one even close was the first ‘strike’ and even that was legitimately outside. A major league umpire should not call a pitch 6-8 inches outside a strike, nor a breaking pitch 8 inches high after being framed a strike.
Way to reinforce in Snelling that the Mariners’ philosophy of hacking is the best way to go! 🙁
#309: That last one was high, and you have to swing when you’re a rookie.
Absolutely.
It amazes me how quickly Kevin Youlikis started getting those “respect” calls from umpires. Maybe they read that book Billy Beane wrote or something.
I hate “respect” calls, whether for pitchers or hitters.
so we swing at pitches that arnt strikes…and take pitches that are called strikes…
theres always pre season football!
ok, so having missed virtually the entire game, what were the complaints with Reed & Guccione? well, ok, I saw the final AB with Doyle, the one where he kept trying to take his walk to 1st, but what happened (again) with Guccione, one of my all time favorite umps?
As much as Snelling got jobbed and I’m livid about it, I think maybe Tschida rang him up as much for running to first twice as for the borderline location of the last pitch.
Which is still bullshit.
At least he’s here, though. I’d take this in Seattle over his winning a triple crown in Tacoma. He’s been doing well so far, too. If he keeps doing his thing, perhaps others will catch on as to how hitting should be approached by major leaguers.
Perhaps then we won’t have this funk again.
Shame he can’t teach the pitchers, though.
The last one was a strike. The other two were Eric Gregg (RIP) strikes.
What a deathmarch this last week has been.
As much as Snelling got jobbed and I’m livid about it, I think maybe Tschida rang him up as much for running to first twice as for the borderline location of the last pitch.
Which is still bullshit.
I think so too. You’re right, it isn’t right.
Even if he didn’t have a legitimate reason to go to first on the first two (i.e., they were half a foot outside), again, a major league umpire, or any one, doesn’t have the right to change his strikes because he feels the guy was showing him up – Which obviously wasn’t the case, anyway.
To quote Bull Durham:
“Well fuck this fucking game!… I fucking quit!”
Went onto MLB’s Gameday to see the pitch location on Snelling:
That first strike wasn’t even charted close to being low. 2nd, right on the low/inside corner (the one pitch I thought was a strike). The 3rd, charted belt high… whatever.
#318: so we swing at pitches that arnt strikes…and take pitches that are called strikes…
You struck gold there: pitches that are called strikes.
If you and I agree to call a horse a cow, that doesn’t make it a cow. And those pitches to Snelling were definitely not strikes.
hmm, a team that has lost 9 games in a row finally has the tying run on base, and the hitter in the box shows he is eager to get to 1st, to keep the inning going. yup, time to punish him.
so what happened with Guccione & Beltre? and damn, that means Guccione is the ump at home for Jake Woods tomorrow.
Doesn’t Gameday ‘paint’ it on the corner/edge if an ump calls it a strike? I’ve never seen a called strike that showed up outside the box. 😉
Could have been some before, but I’ve never seen one.
Snelling is really impressive. Yeah he probably should have swung at the last one with 2 strikes, but his at-bats are incredibly refreshing to watch. His approach sticks out like a sore thumb in this lineup. Basically he just worked 3 walks in one at-bat. That’s more than the rest of the team had all night.
Also I hate to keep bringing this up, but the M’s pitchers need to start throwing at somebody. That K-Rod is freaking intolerable. I think this is actually a case where Mateo could be useful. He can’t pitch worth a damn, but I think he’s pretty accurate when he wants to hit somebody.
I agree with Derek. I think the Imp was kinda pissed that Doyle started running twice and I think that’s utter shit.
#324: You don’t really think MLB Gameday gets those pitch locations from Questec, do you? It’s done by some retiree with a mouse in his hand watching TV in the pressbox.
You might as well draw dots on a piece of paper in your own house to get pitch locations.
Annoying that Rex Hudler kept referring to Snelling as a rookie..when he has been up before in previous years. I can’t believe this is happening…the D-Rays beat the A’s Friday night, so I can say I honestly believe the Mariners will lose every game they have left this season.
Snelling was robbed of a walk…I’m sure Grover will be bench him for two weeks now for that…urggh, I hate Grover…good to see Jones playing although he’s not ready.
That picture on the wall that was rattling and with the wall shaking, that explains why Willie has back spasms…his teammates were taking turns throwing him into the wall since he’s just horrible.
Mariners Myspace
New M’s slogan: Mariners Baseball…You Gotta Loathe Those Guys.
Also I hate to keep bringing this up, but the M’s pitchers need to start throwing at somebody. That K-Rod is freaking intolerable. I think this is actually a case where Mateo could be useful. He can’t pitch worth a damn, but I think he’s pretty accurate when he wants to hit somebody.
A four-day suspension would be soooo delicious.
Maybe if they could prove it was intention it would be for even longer! I’ll gladly join the investigative team.
324: You thought the 2nd pitch of Snelling’s final AB was a strike? That pitch was the worst of the bunch.
#324: You don’t really think MLB Gameday gets those pitch locations from Questec, do you? It’s done by some retiree with a mouse in his hand watching TV in the pressbox.
Of course not. Gameday wouldn’t want Schilling to take out its broadcast means when he got pissed!
None of those three pitches, including the last one, had been called strikes all night.
Fuck him. I was already pissed at the ridiculous call on Beltre at first.
I mean, the team is setting friggin’ records for losing, they don’t need your ump testosterone bullshit on top of everything else.
And screw Hargrove, too. Barely making a fuss while the team gets screwed. You don’t have to be Lou, but for god’s sake, don’t make it easy on them.
Oops, in 333 I meant 2nd strike and not 2nd pitch.
Beltre was safe at first because the 1st baseman jumped to receive the throw and never got back to the bag nor tagged the runner. Guccione called him out.
Guccione tossed David Wells from a game last year when Guccione was umping at second base because Wells turned his back to the home plate umpire and muttered something under his breat about the quality of the balls and strikes calls that day. Guccione is apparently a gifted lip reader, although we learned tonight he cannot see well enough to know when a baserunner is safe at first.
Last year the excuse was that he was a minor league umpire called up to fill in for a vacationing MLB ump. How he got the fulltime gig this year, I have no idea.
Re #330:
No, I didn’t say anything of the sort. Just wanted to see where they’d plot it. Amusing to say the least.
Re: #334:
Yes, really.
#334: They don’t let Schilling have bats anymore. That was an NL-thing.
#328– Exactly correct with regards to hitting batters or pitching inside. High and tight seems a lost concept to Ms’ pitchers. Bobby Mads was great for that. The Mariners appear to be soft. On the other hand Hargrove is a great iinterview
Hargrove should have argued that last strike so vigriously that he got thrown out for Sunday’s game.
#337– nah, Guccione’s been part of Tschida’s crew for a while. He was the ump in 2004 who almost got (of all people) Dan Wilson tossed from a game… “Wilson called time to talk to Moyer, and Guccione followed him toward the mound. Soon, the two were jawing, and when Melvin rushed out to join the fray, he quickly earned his second thumb of the season. “
#341:
This says the porn scion is still a AAA ump. These are the only tenured MLB umps.
Perhaps he’s like a “permatemp” was at Microsoft 10 years ago.
could be– all I know is, he leaves chaos and destruction in his wake. For entertainment sometime, google him and see just how many times he’s tossed someone (after barking at them), especially when they have the nerve to disagree with his wandering strike zone….
There sure was some funny calls against us… it’s hard to say whether it cost us the game, but it certainly makes getting out of this funk that much more difficult.
I like how the defensive chart said just “Chris”.