Campillo
Dave · February 17, 2005 at 5:17 am · Filed Under Mariners
As we initially reported last week, the Mariners have signed Jorge Campillo.
We didn’t jump the gun. The M’s just weren’t ready to announce the signing at the time.
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He was seen late last night by some of the other players in camp after passing a physical, believed to have taken place Monday.
He got a guaranteed contract? My Spanish isn’t great, but I think that means he got a 40 man roster, guaranteed contract.
Who will be DFA’d now?
You’re right, DG, it says he’s in Peoria.
There are quite a few DFA candidates.
My understanding is that Blackley will be placed on the 60 day DL to make room for Campillo once the “championship season” officially starts and the 60 day DL becomes an option again.
seems I read he was deciding between several teams?
Detroit was looking at signing him as well?
sounds like a good thing to me.
But wouldn’t he theoretically have to be placed on the 40 man as soon as the signing is announced? Or is it not going to be announced until the beginning of the regular season?
The “championship season” includes spring training and the playoffs. Its usually something like Feb 20th-November 1st. I’m trying to track down the exact date.
edit: Okay, this might not be true. I’ve got conflicting stories on this now. I’m working on sorting it out.
If you go to this page though Google and hit “translate this page” it says he signed with “the Sailors of Seattle”.
#7. Dave, which part are you getting conflicting info on….the actual signing itself or the 40 man roster move to make way for Campillo? Cheers.
The championship season dates. He’s signed, no question about that. He’s in Peoria as we speak.
The whole Blackley-to-60-day-DL thing to clear up a roster spot for him is in question.
Awesome. Thank you Dave.
The latest from the team is that they acquired his rights, but haven’t actually signed a contract yet. He’ll be a Mariner though unless some immigration issues pop up.
Mike, they see Jorge as a starter? I guess I’d rather have him starting than Sele or Franklin, but if Bavasi’s opening up the fourth and fifth spots in the rotation, does that that mean Mads or Meche doesn’t have a spot yet?
Acquired his rights from whom? Isn’t he a free agent until he’s signed? Meaning either they’ve signed him or they haven’t.
If they’ve signed him but aren’t “releasing” it for now in order to keep him off the 40 man roster, that sounds like they’re playing fast and loose with MLB rules.
#14. He is/was under contract to the Los Tigres de la Angelopolis of Mexico. We acquired his contract rights from them I guess. Just like signing a Japanese player who is under contract for example. No?
Mac’s mostly right, but Ralph isn’t that far off the mark either. This isn’t unique to the M’s, though; teams often keep agreements from becoming signings until they’ve decided how to clear a roster spot for the new player.
Actually the Mariners didn’t need to buy any rights to Mexico Tigres, they release it so he can pitch in any team at MLB. He played winter league with Tomateros, here are his numbers.
10-1, 2.05 ERA, 87.2 IP, 66 H, 6 HR allowed, .208 OPP Avg.
Reference:
http://www.tomateros.com.mx/estadisticas/individuales.asp
For you non-spanish speakers, The Times has posted some info on the signing as well:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002182836_webmarisign17.html
I don’t have any idea how numbers from the Mexican league would translate but he definitely looks like a ground-ball/control-type pitcher. He has a nice WHIP of less than 1 and low HRs allowed (6 in 87 innings)
According to Thompson, Bavasi views him as a legit 4th/5th starter.
And speaking of pitchers, Jim Street finally realized the M’s are high on Hernandez…
Last year, Bavasi viewed Franklin as a legit 4/5 starter. It sounds like Campillo is a lot like that- average fastball, changes speeds, control artist.
Differnce, though. Campillo seems to be able to keep the ball in the park. Franklin has a bit of a home run problem.
Did Rick Guttormson get a ST invite and we didn’t know?
In http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20050217/450mspring105.jpg,
he is wearing the major league ST uniform, as can be telled by the white stripes on the sleeves.
The scond bit here should make you nervous…
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/212365_mbok17.html
Healthy again after having arthroscopic surgery on the labrum in his right shoulder in 2002, Sele expects to make the team.
He doesn’t have great expectations, however, that he will be a dominating presence in spring training.
Sele’s best pitch is a curveball, and no matter who throws it, the curve generally doesn’t do well in Arizona’s warm, dry climate.
The pitch tends to break late, and hitters can hammer it. Sele has a history of poor spring training numbers, though he did well enough last year for Anaheim.
“For me, the best analogy is a bowling alley,” Sele said. “You can put all the spin on the ball you want, but it takes a while for it to bite.
“It’s the same with the curve. In this climate, and don’t ask me why, the pitch takes longer to break. Maybe if you threw it 64 feet, it would break just right. But at 60 feet, it doesn’t break right and it can get hit hard.”
As workouts start today, Sele will be looking for more subtle signs that he’s back. If his mechanics are right, that’s all he needs.
And he’s fortunate too, because many in the Seattle organization, specifically pitching coach Bryan Price, know Sele from his two-year stint with the Mariners in 2000-01, when he won 32 games and helped Seattle to the American League Championship Series twice.
It sounds like he might make the team if he goes 1-2 with a 5.43 ERA, since his curve doesn’t work well in Arizona…
DMZ-
Nice. Off the Wall found its way to FoxSports.com’s “Rumors” page.
http://msn.foxsports.com/name/FS/rumors
Ouch! Now DMZ is going to be accused of starting rumours!
DMZ’s piece today was great (why no link yet?). It will give the Bucky faithful reasons beyond the Paul Bunyan physique and local boy backstory to support their guy, and to look again at contracts like that of Ibanez. I actually think that all the attention Bucky received first from fans, then from media once they picked up on it, persuaded Bavasi to call him up last year. The club needed the pr splash. But as DMZ pointed out so well, it needs the production more and there is every reason to believe that given a chance, Bucky can bring it. Wouldn’t it be great if Grover actually read the piece?
The reason Sele’s curve doesn’t break as much in Arizona is the altitude, I believe. The BOB is the second-highest park in the majors, and while I’m not an Arizona geography master, most of the spring training sites are probably similar.
In any case, I hope he doesn’t make the first round of cuts.
The “championship season” starts the day the entire club is in camp.
Looking at that Fox Sports rumors page, I think we’re missing the obvious. Just under the link to Derek’s article there’s a link to “Giants may trade for CF”… Randy Winn to the Giants for Noah Lowry! 🙂
jason
Why stop there?
Winn for Schmidt, Bonds and loads of cash.
I don’t want Bonds. I wouldn’t trade Willie Bloomquist for Bonds.
Yeah, who needs a .350/.600/.800 man in the lineup?
I’ll take Bonds. I’d bat him second, right behind Ichiro.
Re # 17 (2.05 ERA and .208 Opp BA) & # 19 (“I don’t have any idea how numbers from the Mexican league would translate but…) To think that Campillo so dominated hitters in–to put it mildly–a hitters’ ballpark.
When it comes to launching pads, Denver (5,260 feet) doesn’t even come close to Mexico City (7,240 feet).
[Those numbers must mean something.]
Bonds would be so unreal at Safeco.
Yeah, Bonds’ performance would really be helped out by being protected by Ichiro.
Imagine how many times Boone, Beltre, Sexson and Ibanez would bat with MULTIPLE runners on base if Ichiro and Bonds hit in front of them. Yikes!
I don’t know, Bonds would take AB’s away from Bucky…or maybe you could platoon them at DH.
Here’s your answer, from the P-I article:
“While the Mariners have the rights to Campillo, there will be no deal until Campillo acquires a P1 work visa from the U.S. government.”
“The P1 visa is a special category of work visa that applies to athletes, artists and entertainers. The Mariners will apply for P1 status for Campillo once he arrives. The deal the club has with Mexico City is dependent upon a visa being issued. If not, Campillo will be returned to the Tigres.
“While that process works itself out — such requests frequently take about three weeks — Campillo is scheduled to work out with the Mariners. If and when the visa comes through, the Mariners will have to make a move to get Campillo on the 40-man roster. One possibility is putting starting pitcher Travis Blackley on the 60-day disabled list, which doesn’t count against the 40-man list. Blackley underwent season-ending surgery last week.”